User talk:Dtobias

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[edit] Self-awareness

No, I also like throwing in references to Orwell's 1984, Scientology's Suppressive Persons, and various relevant Twilight Zone episodes, when they seem apt

Nice to see that you've properly classified your peculiar obsession, then. Self-awareness is always the first step to enlightenment, after all. --Calton | Talk 02:34, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

So when are you going to acquire some yourself? *Dan T.* (talk) 03:02, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] a NotTheWikipediaWeekly message

Hi folks,

I've confirmed a time for the next conversation on Tuesday night, US time, (Wednesday, 02.30 UTC). Huge apologies that this isn't going to be good for Euro folk, and I know Anthony and Peter will likely be unable to attend therefore. It's possible we need a bit of a wiki effort at the project page to better organise and plan conversations - and I'd also like to encourage all interested folks to watchlist that page for updates / changes etc. which will probably be a smoother way of staying in touch than many talk page messages (though it's great that more people are expressing interest in participating...). With that in mind, if you'd like to reply to this message, please do so at my talk page, and I'll respond as soon as I can.

If you are able to attend at the given time, please do head over to Wikipedia:NotTheWikipediaWeekly#Confirmed_Participants and sign up - this is a great help in making sure everyone is around. We generally chat for about 10 minutes before 'going live' and the whole process takes about an hour, and I very much look forward to chatting to all!

best, Privatemusings (talk) 00:57, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] RFA thanks

Thanks for your support in my RFA, that didn't quite make it and ended at 120/47/13. There was a ton of great advice there, that I'm going to go on. Maybe someday. If not, there are articles to write! Thanks for your support. Lawrence § t/e 17:49, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Please consider taking the AGF Challenge

I would like to invite you to consider taking part in the AGF Challenge which has been proposed for use in the RfA process [1] by User: Kim Bruning. You can answer in multiple choice format, or using essay answers, or anonymously. You can of course skip any parts of the Challenge you find objectionable or inadvisable.

Also, since you know people at Wikipedia Review, perhaps you could assist me with something. I am very interested in getting some of them to take the AGF Challenge, particularly Wikipedia's most strident critics. Since many are site banned, and I do not want to be accused of "proxy editing", I have made arrangements where they can email me their answers anonymously and I will post them under a pseudonym for them. Thanks.--Filll (talk) 15:51, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

I did already, in the multiple choice sections. *Dan T.* (talk) 15:59, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
Ok good. I havent followed exactly who answered what. Do you think we could get some of our strong external critics, even our banned critics at WR and other places, to attempt it? Or at least some of the exercises ?--Filll (talk) 17:24, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Claque

Noun

1. A group of people hired to attend a performance and to either applaud or boo

2. A group of people who pre-arrange among themselves to express strong support for an idea, so as to give the false impression of a wider consensus.

3. A group of fawning admirers

See here --MitziCooper (talk) 01:12, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

I just learned a new word. Cla68 (talk) 03:27, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] snookered?

Presumably you get the reference :) ++Lar: t/c 02:19, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image source problem with Image:Dotpt.png

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[edit] ED sources

I've created a subpage at (User:Urban Rose/ED sources). If you can help me gather sources, I may propose a recreation of the article Encyclopedia Dramatica. It has been deleted on the grounds of not enough reliable sources, so if you can help me gather some I would appreciate it.--Urban Rose 02:28, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] AN thread

I've started a thread concerning User:JzG's recent incivility toward you and myself as well as blatantly admitting to closing an ED deletion review because of personal distaste of the website. You may want to participate. See here.--Urban Rose 21:21, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/C68-FM-SV

An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened, and is located here. Please add any evidence you may wish the Arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/C68-FM-SV/Evidence. Please submit your evidence within one week, if possible. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/C68-FM-SV/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, John Vandenberg (chat) 11:49, 16 May 2008 (UTC)


Regarding your WP:RFAR/C68-FM-SV/Evidence, could you add some diffs to the section. e.g., which arbcom case are you referring to by the name "Attack Sites" ? I could probably guess, but it would be better if you added a link to the case you are referring to. The evidence needs to be written so that someone who is unfamiliar with the dispute can verify that the evidence is accurate -- that will promote uninvolved parties getting involved in the Workshop phase. Cheers, John Vandenberg (chat) 01:44, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

And which Register article are you referring to? C'mon, dont make me pull each link out of you one by one; your evidence section needs to be fleshed out so that the reader doesnt need to guess what you are referring to. John Vandenberg (chat) 03:41, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
Alright, so it looks like I am going to have to ask for each and every link that is needed to improve your evidence section,so here are a bunch of requests. You say that the Piperdown block/ban was reexamined; where was it reexamined? Where was the decision to keep Swalwell, Alberta and please find a few diffs that demonstrate the JzG attempted to remove mention of that place; could you link to the case involving Mantanmoreland; when you say '"trolls" are hardly the only ones who have seen problems', do you have a comment from the arbs in mind? Every link that you provide makes your evidence more complete. John Vandenberg (chat) 09:10, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
OK, I've added a few more... (Boy, it can be a pain to find stuff from WP:AN... thousands upon thousands of revisions, and hundreds of archives... like finding a needle in a haystack!) *Dan T.* (talk) 14:32, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
Thank you! It looks good now. John Vandenberg (chat) 21:25, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Request for arbitration

I have added your name to the list of parties on the JzG dispute. Hopefully you will be able to shed light on these matters and participate in the resolution on this dispute which has carried on for much too long, in my opinion. Jehochman Talk 10:45, 18 May 2008 (UTC)


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[edit] Template:Tiffany

Hi Dtobias, thanks for the pointing out an error in the template. I don't know if you watch the template or not, but I'll tell you that I've left a response to your comment on the talk page. Best wishes. Acalamari 01:42, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] JzG RFAR merged with Cla68-FM-SV case

Per the arb vote here the RFAR on User:JzG is now merged with this case and he is a named party. Also see my case disposition notes there. RlevseTalk 21:18, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Suggestion

To retract your personal attack here.--MONGO 17:24, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Posted at AN/I [2]--MONGO 17:44, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Kindly don't get in piss fights. It works out better for everybody. Refactor them, take a break from WP, and come back later to respond without the commentary. It's coming from both sides. If you're taking a side, it's better for your side to not be engaging in it. SchmuckyTheCat (talk)

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[edit] Thanks dan

I think it was you that posted the review of MONGOs evidence - you basically said what I was going to wewhen I found the time. However because it turned into threaded conversation, it might be better to post your analyses above the comment section and maybe in a different colour. ViridaeTalk 13:10, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks...

...for the response and link. Informative. Zenasprime (talk) 00:31, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Interestingly enough I'm getting told precicely the opposite by Swatjester on my own talk page. Zenasprime (talk) 01:33, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
You might want to check out my userspace, this topic has because quite the point of contention. Zenasprime (talk) 05:42, 2 June 2008 (UTC)