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why are drupes also called tone fruits?

A: That's stone fruits. Named for the stone (usually called a pit in American English). Remember the old riddle song: "I gave my love a cherry without a stone."?

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[edit] Avocados

This article says Avocados are drupes. But the berry article, as well as the fruit article, says that Avocados are berries. Which is it? Or could it possibly be both? Solemnavalanche 23:12, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

A: Avocados are not drupes. I've edited the article to remove them from the list. Why not? Because they lack a true endocarp or stony pit that is derived from the flower's ovary wall. Best fit for avocados is as a one-seeded berry.

I don't know what Avocados you're familiar with, but the ones we get here have a stony pit. Also, this article here and also this article both confirm that they are indeed drupes... --Rebroad 22:20, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
The "stony pit" of avocados is just a hard seed coat that is not derived from the ovary wall. SCHZMO 11:56, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Coffee

According to the Coffea arabica article, the fruits of the coffe plant are berries. But here it says drupes. What is correct? /Greger

According to [1], the fruit of coffee is a false berry because it derives from an inferior ovary (a characteristic of its family, Rubiaceae) and lacks a single central pit (the fruit contains two seeds). SCHZMO 12:08, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Non-drupes

The opening paragraph speaks of other fruits with stones that are not drupes, and the avacado is cited as an example in the talk page. Could somenone with more knowledge about this add a couple of examples of non-drupe stone fruits? Stubblyhead 19:11, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

In the case of avocados, the "stone" is not a true stone; it is just a hard seed coat that is not derived from the ovary wall, therefore avocados are not drupes. SCHZMO 23:09, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Drupelets

Drupelet redirects here, but there is no mention of "drupelet" in the article. Can someone clarify? Stevage 18:09, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I just missed the relevant section. I've filled it out by translating that paragraph from fr:drupe. Stevage 18:25, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] clarification please

In the introduction, the paragraph citing several drupes reads as follows: Some flowering plants which produce drupes are coffee, jujube, mango, olive, most palms (including date, coconut and oil palms), pistachio and all members of the genus Prunus, including the almond (in which the mesocarp is somewhat leathery), apricot, cherry, nectarine, peach, and plum. However, the genus Prunus includes (but not limited to) plums, cherries, peaches, apricots and almonds -> couldn't the paragraph be rewritten to convey this? The way it currently reads suggests that the the later fruit come from disparate genera. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kingerik (talkcontribs) 18:18, 16 January 2007 (UTC).