Talk:Drug subculture

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[edit] Drug culture or subculture?

This article is really very poorly written, in my opinion. It is too narrow in scope to be accurate, and thus I would encorage someone to add to it. Plus I would recommend the title be changed to Drug Culture- isn't that more logical? Maybe someone should get off the old peace pipe and realize a subculture is postcedent to a culture.

My other objection is that there is no mention that the term is a descriptive term used in sociology, if not anthropology. This point should be brought to the fore, the article as it stand today- 2005 Jan 29- can be included afterwards. Meaning the self-awareness or political awareness of drug users uniting in collective action is in some sense applicable to the term-I think. My point is that people who use drugs have certain characteristics, they just do and they don't necessarily have awareness of it themselves. The idea that there are similiarities among users is recent in history too, I think. When you read authors like William S. Burroughs you see how 'groundbreaking' his early writing was because he was doing what had not been done before- describing a 'culture' among users. Did 19th Century addicts like Edgar Allen Poe think like that? --Mikerussell 06:21, 2005 Jan 29 (UTC)

(As an aside, there is really no evidence that Edgar Allan Poe was a drug addict. --Midnightdreary 16:33, 17 July 2007 (UTC))

I've never heard the term "drug subculture", even though there are clearly separate scenes for different sorts of drugs... the phrase is still "drug culture". --Galaxiaad 23:38, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

With 200 million estimated regular (illicit) drug users globally (according to UNODC), I think that it should be Culture, not subculture. If you include alcohol as a "drug", then it's definitely Culture, rather than subculture. Shamanchill (talk) 00:50, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] See Also deleted

I also removed the see also reference to 420 and Rochdale, they might be included in the main article, if the article was expanded, but it is not logical to have a see also link, in my opinion. The writer who included it should try to write it into the body of the article, thus giving it better context, but to just have it at the bottom as see also is poor composition, in my humble opinion. If they would lighten up on the old ganga stick, they might have more energy to write decent copy. (that's a joke- don't get all self-righteous with the squares.)

[edit] Rochdale

Rochdale is a very notable topic, at least if you are Canadian older than thirty, but the 'experiment' and ultimate failure of the Rochdale Co-op says much more about 1960's socialist utopian ideals going very wrong. To say the housing/living co-op of U of T grad students 'failed' because students were smoking pot misses the real significance of the episode. Plus, half the chicks in Annesley Hall probably still smoke dope now, and its supposed to be this temple of Victorian good sense. --Mikerussell 06:21, 2005 Jan 29 (UTC)

[edit] slang

I got redirected to this article from searching "drug slang". There really needs to be a drug slang page. For one thing, some people hear drug slang in songs and it might not be familiar to them, possibly because of regional slang. Also, the current alternative is the Urban Dictionary, and that's been very unreliable lately, due to vandalism and general stupidity. - Ugliness Man 12:17, 17 February 2006

[edit] This is not an Encyclopedic article!

This entry is B.S. (at BEST)!!! Give me the time Necessary and I'll Re-Write it Appropriately!

[edit] Plant or drug?

The article concerns drug subculture, not just cannabis subculture, so I can't understand the recent revert of "drug" to "plant". I'm going to restore the word drug as it obviously covers the whole gamut, not just weed.

Juux (talk) 20:06, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Point of view

Is it just me, or does this page seem to take a positive attitude towards drugs and the like. Not too sure. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.4.78.226 (talk) 01:35, 30 April 2008 (UTC)