User talk:Drova

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Hello, Drova, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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[edit] Wikiproject Chemistry WP:WikiProject Chemistry

Perhaps you might find likeminded individuals here? --Rifleman 82 (talk) 16:20, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Glad to be here !

Thanks for your welcoming note, Rifleman 82. As you have noticed, I am new to Wikipedia. I hope that I am doing it right. Drova (talk) 03:08, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Copper

I've responded at my talk. --Rifleman 82 (talk) 10:22, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Original research

WP:NOR exists for a very good reason. An encyclopedia is not the place to make claims. Instead, it is the place where verified claims eventually show up. If your periodic table design indeed has more explanatory power than the existing but with fewer drawbacks, submit it to a relevant journal or show that the scientific community has embraced it. Once this occurs, Wikipedia will be happy to include it.--Lucent (talk) 02:48, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

See my correspondence with Lucent regarding this issue at his (talk).

Drova (talk) 05:19, 1 June 2008 (UTC) Tes I saw it. And I'm an EE and have my own problems with orbital electron theories, But I want to have a reasonable concept of the atomic nucleus and hopefully of the whole atom. And so I built a set of real physical nuclear models based on the most reasonable set of ideas I could find, Which included a table format equal to the left-step or Janet table. See Talk:Nuclear model. And I reported it but they wont let me in to the Nuclear Model article and imply that i'm doing original research. But A model is a model is a model to coin a phrase. And maybe we can get wikiers to pay more attention to the advantages of the Janet model and even to the implications as to nuclear stability of my real models. And I can see why Copernicus and Galileo and even Newton had their problems.WFPMWFPM (talk) 03:30, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Left Step Periodic Table is fine, but it is only intermediate step towards the correct table, because it does not reflect quantum number 'n', that represents electronic shells, directly. Therefore, rows of the LSPT do not represent electronic shells, instead each row represent n+l. However, if you shift spdf blocks by amount of 'l', as in ADOMAH PT you will get the final product, where quantum number 'n' can be seen directly. After this shift is done, table can be used to calculate electronic configuration and relationship between 'n' and 'l' becomes clear. I agree with you in regard to some Wikiers. What is obvious shouldn't be rejected just because it is new or in different format, instead it should be embraced. In accordance with Webster's Dictionary "Encyclopedia is a book, covering all branches of knowledge or, less commonly, all aspects of one subject". If Wikipedia is intended to be a good encyclopedia, it should cover as many aspects of any particular subject as possible. There is a good name for those who are quick to reject anything that is not main stream without giving it a proper consideration: "Scientific Ortodoxy". I have a proposition, what if you do your Nucler Model in ADOMAH format, instead of LSPT? Lets be bold! Drova (talk)

Please remember that I'm an EE who can remember not knowing and trying to understand Ohms law. But now im old and for some stupid reason I want to know what is the recipe for the matter involved and what is going on physically in the center of the Whirlpool Galaxy M51 as indicated by the new Hubble and other pictures. And what most impresses me is that whatever is going on, electrical and magnetic processes have practically nothing to do with it other than result in the emission of radiation, which I assume is surplus to the process. But we've got electrons, which must be needed in the process, (to do the radiating?] and beyond that gravity rules. So I cant help you with worrying about spdf orbitals because I dont know they exist and cant see the need for them. Sorry if I sound like a thought editor, but every man to his own folly. So the left step or Janet tables are simple and agree with my models and the models can tell you more about the atomic structure and that's as far as I've got. Regards WFPMWFPM (talk) 16:57, 11 June 2008 (UTC)