Talk:Dreamcatcher

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Contents 1 2 Mandala 3 Article name 4 POV statement repeatedly added and removed

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The Lakota legend in this article has been pasted, verbatim, from this website, and it is not clear if this has been done by the original author, should the article have a copyright violation boilerplate placed on it? redcountess 10:08, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

If this is an Ojibwa tradition, shouldn't that be focused on in the article, as opposed to continuing the misconception that there is a universal, "Native American" culture? --Kathryn NicDhàna 22:14, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

It appears a section of this article was taken from this site: http://www.native-languages.org/dreamcatchers.htm So, I'm going to rewrite that section so the info can be included in another way. --Kathryn NicDhàna 22:39, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mandala

How is this related to a mandella? Comments by Knaggs on 11:05, 5 March 2007

From the most generic definition of a "mandala" or a "mandella" being a "geometric design representing a cosmic plan", a dream-catcher sort of falls into that category. There are other types of Native American "mandala" designs that also fall into this category. (see http://www.whats-your-sign.com/Native-American-mandala.html) However, I'm not sure how this information can be incorporated into (or even appropriate for) this article other than having a "See also" link provided at the end. CJLippert 16:30, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article name

I'm uncomfortable with the article's current name. Partly because "Dreamcatcher (Native American)" just sounds rather silly, and partly because I don't think a disambiguation is really necessary. The Ojibwe/Native American traditional dreamcatchers are where the term originated; other uses of it (e.g., to refer to books or songs or the like) are obviously taking their name from the object. My suggestion would be to have this page be named just Dreamcatcher, and to have a link at the top to a disambiguation page, Dreamcatcher (disambiguation) (the page that's now at just Dreamcatcher). Thoughts, suggestions, or comments? --Miskwito 21:57, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

I would support that change. - Kathryn NicDhàna ♫♦♫ 04:06, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

That's a good idea, or maybe the article could automatically to this page, and then have a link at the top for other DreamCatcher disabamguation (sorry, I don't know how to spell it, if I remember, I'll fix it later) SOTL 16:28, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

I would support the change, as well. It sounds so much more logical. Miigwech Miskwito. CJLippert 21:06, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] POV statement repeatedly added and removed

We have a situation here where we have a POV statement being added by an anonymous user repeatedly and then a registered user removing the statement. It is:

"Further exacerbating this troubling development of cultural appropriation is when various groups or individuals poach aboriginal ideas of artistic expression, and then manufacture them by non-natives in countries such as China, for example, where copyright infringement is the norm."

and a citation of a legitimate site is given. However, the site does not quite express this, though broaches the topic. The anonymous user does make an excellent statement but needs to figure out a way to express this in a way to meet Wikipedia's WP:NPOV. CJLippert (talk) 23:33, 13 January 2008 (UTC)