Talk:Dreamcatcher (novel)
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The only real difference between the novel and the movie version of Dreamcatcher is the obvious leaving out of few, minor details for time purposes, and the ending in the movie version differed from that of the book. The movie's version of events in the last few minutes was much more action-packed and what the "audience wants in it's movies", compared to the less-exciting, but equally fulfilling ending from the original source.
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[edit] "Florida Election"??
The article as-is is claiming that the Florida Election controversy is mentioned in Dreamcatcher, but also that it was published BEFORE the 2000 election. Obviously this is impossible and should be changed.
[edit] Downs, Duddits, Tone and Primacy
Just a quick note - older versions of this article (now altered) mention Duddits as a Down's -syndrome kid. Considering the tone of this phrase (this is, after all an encyclopedia, so should contain formal tone), and the fact that it gives primacy to the fact that he has downs syndrome rather that who he actually is, I've changed this.
[edit] History, not English
I'd just like to point out that Jonesy is an associate professor of History (his key interest appears to be the US Civil War), not English as the article claims.
[edit] Byrus
Isn't byrus a fungus? PrometheusX303 04:24, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Connections
[edit] Connections
65.120.37.26 added the following:
The book has many connections within it that tie it in with many other of King's books, including the famed Dark Tower series. The majority, though, connect to King's novel It.
The first major connection involves the name of the monster from It and the name of the alien possesing Jonesy's body. In It, the monster, when talking to George Denbrough, says "My name is Mr. Bob Gray also known as Pennywise, the dancing clown." While in "Dreamcatcher", the alien calls himself "Mr. Gay" which could be translated, and is also identified by Henry, as "Mr. Gray."
Second connections involves the fact that Mr. Gray from Dreamcatcher is an alien. In "It" in the chapter "The Smoke Hole", Richie and Mike both get a vision of a meteor coming down to Derry in ancient times from the sky. This is a clear reference that the aliens in "Dreamcatcher" are the same type of alien represented by Pennywise in "It."
Finally, while Henry goes to Derry to pick up Duddits, he finds a statue dedicated to "Bill, Richie, Mike, Ben, Beverly, Eddie, and Stan" who helped stop Pennywise in 1958. Written across the statue in blood is the words "Pennywise Lives!" This is a very interesting twist done by King, because it simply states that the seven kids never actually killed Pennywise in "It". Also remember that in "It", Pennywise states that "I am eternal, child. I am the eater of worlds and of children," meaning that he could never actually die. Another reference in "It" invovles the Turtle, who like Pennywise is "immortal" per se.
1> Mr. Gray is IT? No proof yet shown. Bob is a common and somewhat generic name (sorry, Bob). Pennywise was in Derry before Mr.Gray landed with his buddies. The novel hints that Mr. Gray was actually a facet of Jonsey's persona.
2> A "clear refrence that the aliens in "Dreamcatcher" are the same type of alien represented by Pennywise in "It." Not according to IT. The discriptions of Mr. Gray et al and Pennywise are different.
3> "Pennywise Lives!" It doesn't actually say or imply that Pennywise was still alive. PrometheusX303 12:52, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
Additional points:
A> Searching the PDF version of Dreamcatcher reveals no mention of "Bob Gray" only "Mr. Gray". The most notorious aliens are probably "Roswell grays", plus Duddits warns thm to look out for Mr. Gray. B> "Pennywise Live" was not written in blood. It was spraypainted. PrometheusX303 21:07, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Colonization intentions
I'm not sure where we get the notion that the Byrus are "clearly" attempting to colonize other worlds by spreading their infection, as someone says in the trivia section. The impression I got from the book was that the Byrus had crash-landed on Earth by accident, not intending to come there. The "thoughts" of Mr. Gray himself are no indication of how the Byrus actually think, since it was revealed in the end that Mr. Gray's thoughts were caused by Jonesy projecting his own thoughts and ideas onto Mr. Gray ("a case of intergalactic schizophrenia" was the exact phrase King used). The movie oversimplified this and turned it into just another alien plague horror story, but King's original idea was more complex. Sylocat 22:18, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] derry
"the book is set in the fictional town of derry maine" i disagree. the book is mainly set on their hunting trip, at hole in the wall. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.156.11.1 (talk) 13:37, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] gunnery sgt hartman
also is it my imagination or is kurtz very similar to gunnery sgt hartman from Full Metal Jacket?
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