Talk:Drawn Together

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Contents 1 The Adult Swim comment 2 Cleanup 3 Deletion 4 Fair use rationale for Image:Drawn together(1).jpg 5 s2 DVD extras 6 Cancellation

[edit] The Adult Swim comment

I tried to delete the part about how it was only negative because of being a rival network but the line keeps coming back and I feel that the line comes off more of an opinion than an actual fact

That's all you needed to say. I kept putting it back because you didn't provide a reason for taking it out in the edit summary. Unexplained removal of text can be construed as vandalism.Raymondluxuryacht 19:06, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup

This is a low-rated, second-tier cable show that is essentially cancelled. Why does it deserve a whole series of overlong, over-elaborate articles? One, maybe, but not one for every character. At minimum, these all need serious cleanup. I edit articles about Spanish soap operas with FAR larger audiences and they run just a few paragraphs. See, for example, Marina, which has triple the viewership and quadruple the episode count.

This just seems obsessive. The mere fact that something is animated does not make it deserve of undue weight. Yakuman 02:40, 22 March 2007 (UTC) --JVersteeg 17:41, 3 April 2007 (UTC):If you disagree with the existance of those articles, nominate them on AFD (chances are extremely good they will not be deleted). But beyond that, a cleanup tag does not belong on this article. Raul654 02:45, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

There are HUGE differences between AfD and cleanup. Simply put, there's too much extraneous stuff here. At least one-third of the material here could be removed. It's just too much redundancy, trivial details and banal insignificant banter. Wikipedia, like the rest of the world, suffers from entropy and decay. This article is no different. Make it shorter and more concise. Yakuman 02:51, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

I'll admit, The article could do without the Songs section or the Guests in the confessional. It's pretty trivial. But even so, it seems like your argument is essentially your own opinion. It's hardly low rated and was put on hiatus because Comedy Central wanted to premiere season 3 a couple months early. I don't think it would go three seasons and pushed so fast that a season premiered when it wasn't finished if it was low-rated. Besides, It's Wikipedia. The land of over-analyzers and people with WAY too much time. What else would you expect here? DSMeatte 04:57, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

First off, I'll second that neither Songs nor Guests is needed, so I'll go ahead and remove those. But that aside, DSMeatte is right, your argument is essentially based in opinion. "Second-tier" is entirely opinion; there are lot of people who enjoy this show, and furthermore, who read and enjoy the articles on it. Secondly, "low-rated" is not even factual; it's the second highest rated show on the network behind South Park. But more importantly, just because you personally don't consider a subject notable doesn't mean it doesn't deserve to be written with thoroughness if people are willing to do it. If there are other subjects you consider more important, why not take time to build THEM up?Raymondluxuryacht 05:50, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

I think the article is fine now. Not too many insignificant details or useless trivia but enough information for (already nostalgic) fans (like myself). --JVersteeg 17:41, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion

I removed:

The film clip accompanying the Double Hemm Productions logo is a windstorm on the original Tacoma Narrows Bridge (also known as Galloping Gertie), capturing the bridge about to collapse.

It was not relevant to the section it was in, and no existing section seemed appropriate for it. Perhaps someone can think of somewhere appropriate for it.--Jeffro77 22:40, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Drawn together(1).jpg

Image:Drawn together(1).jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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[edit] s2 DVD extras

The article finally lists extras for the season two DVD, but is there a source available for it? --Evildevil 23:32, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

The South Park Season 10 DVD contains a preview which mentions the extras.Raymondluxuryacht 00:28, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. They sounded believable, I just had to know for sure. (It's hard to believe anything on wikipedia without a source)--Evildevil 03:47, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

A new season's coming out I think next week. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.194.236.133 (talk) 02:36, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cancellation

Should it be mentioned why it was cancelled, or was it never announced? - Crazyconan (talk) 04:01, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Comments from the creators/producers indicate that it was most likely cancelled due to high production costs, but there hasn't been an official announcement either way.Sandmaster (talk) 04:56, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

It's too bad, that show had a good run while it lasted. Is it true they are ending South Park in 2011, or is it an unconfirmed rumor? - Crazyconan (talk) 05:24, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

2011 is when the creators' current contract runs out, but they haven't said the show will actually be ending then. Most likely they'll sign a new contract unless Trey and Matt decide they want to quit, though they haven't yet indicated any plans to do so.Sandmaster (talk) 07:31, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank God =) - Crazyconan (talk) 04:13, 3 June 2008 (UTC)