Talk:Dragon Ball Z/Archive 4

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Season 4 DBZ

When is the 4rth season supposed to come out I bought the third and it just said It was comming soon.Prince Of All Sayains —Preceding unsigned comment added by Prince Of All Saiyans (talk • contribs) 16:02, 10 October 2007 (UTC)


Season 4

When is DBZ's Season 4 Coming Out?Prince Of All Saiyans 13:09, 11 October 2007 (UTC)Prince Of All Sayains

according to animenation, its 02/18/08 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.112.130.8 (talk) 19:03, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

There are lots episodes of DBZ and some of them are most action and powerful fights with son gokou and gohan.--Daneynares 20:11, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

What the hell happened to this article?

It's so tiny now, and it's mostly just a list. What happened here? Where did all the good information go?

New section added

Hello everyone. Because I didn't see a plot section, I began to add it; I already wrote about tha Saiyans and Freeza sagas, I'm going to write about the Cell saga, because I cannot remember too much about the others. Can you help me in this? Thanks. Twicemost 04:36, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Can someone explain me why the section was deleted? Is there already an article for the series plot? Or it's that you are too reckless and erased it without giving the reasons in this talk? Man, this English Wikipedia is the real worst. Twicemost 20:27, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

dont do a space beforr your comment it stretches out the page

Uncut versions

If possible could anyone post more information about the uncut seasons please? ie. links to sites where you could order DVD's etc would be much apreciated! I tried to look on the funimations site but didn't get very far...

This was concerning:

Uncut version

In 2003, FUNimation began to redub the first two sagas (Saiyan and Namek). They also redubbed the first three Pioneer-distributed movies that were dubbed by the Ocean Group voice actors. The distribution of the redubs on DVD, under the Ultimate Uncut Special Edition title, began in April 2005.

In the summer of 2005, Cartoon Network started showing the uncut version of the first two seasons of Dragon Ball Z. This version used the original Japanese footage, with the exception of the Japanese opening and closing themes, and has an entirely new score of music. The uncut version also featured many scenes with large amounts of blood, mild profanity and language, as well as mild sexual humor and slapstick male nudity. Generally, while some lines were maintained from the original dub, several mistranslations were also corrected. The uncut episodes were given a TV-PG rating unlike the original dub's episodes which were given a TV-Y7 rating. Although only the first two uncut seasons have been released, more are expected soon.

Also, it may be a stupid question but could someone add if those versions mentioned were in english or merely subtitled? Again it would be much apreciated!

DVD section

I changed the DVD section into a wikitable, to give it a more organized look. I was going to also add a Spanish Audio Collum, but only one set had Spanish audio, so I decided against it. Anyone else have any suggestions for it? Takuthehedgehog 04:44, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

dvd release

Whats the point in this section? I cant see how its relevant. Unless someone provides ACCURATE reasons its not gonna be in the article.BlueShrek 23:45, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

What are you're reasons for getting rid of it, exactly? You haven't given us much insight on why it should be removed other than the fact you see it as a pointless list. // DecaimientoPoético 02:57, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Well, for one the dvds werent all released together, The release dates arent really relevent, and it makes the article more of a mess. Also this articles quality goes down with it.BlueShrek 14:06, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

What does the fact that they weren't "all released together" have to do with this? You haven't really said anything new as to why you think it should go. "The quality goes down" is very vague, and still doesn't provide us much insight into this situation. One could say that about anything in the article, but that reason alone wouldn't justify removing it. Dan 14:49, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
The other DVD sections do provide all of the information that the table I created had. I had originally made it to clean up the old section on DVD releeases, I don't see why it didn't occur to me to just delete it. Takuthehedgehog 01:58, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

The information was irrelevent and pointless so its gone period dot dash.BlueShrek 15:19, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

That's what I said. Takuthehedgehog 01:48, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Statement

"The 'Z' was originally added to the title by Toriyama for the anime, to signify it as being the ending portion of the Dragon Ball series."

I'm considering removing this bit. Not only do I find it completely untrue and unsourced, but there wasn't anything on the net regarding this statement. Comments before I remove this "infinite" citation? Lord Sesshomaru
We're just talking about the second part, correct? The "to signify it as being the ending portion of the Dragon Ball series."? 'Cause the first bit seems like it should stay. I'd call it notable that the "Z" was only added in the anime, and the Manga as a whole was "Dragon Ball", but that's just me. Lychosis T/C 23:21, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
Everything in that sentence is WP:OR. It should be removed, how do we know that it was Toriyama and not the animation crew who added the 'Z' to the anime? Yes, the 'Z' was only added in the anime and the original manga series is known as Dragon Ball, we know that for a fact. I'll give it a few more days — if it remains unverified, I will get rid of it entirely. Lord Sesshomaru
Ah, I had overlooked the "Toriyama did this" bit. Well, I'm just saying, would a mention be left about the fact that the "Z" was added after the manga, or is that notable enough to justify inclusion? I mean, not everyone would know that. Just someone who wanders along and starts reading the "Dragon Ball Z" article might not know that, you know? I dunno, maybe I'm looking at this the wrong way, but it's just what I think. You've got more experience with this than me, though, so please correct me if this is just stupidity on my part.  :x Lychosis T/C 02:07, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
Don't worry, I see what you're getting at. If the sentence were reworded like, "The 'Z' was added after the [Dragon Ball] manga", then its acceptable. That's why there a Dragon Ball (anime) and Dragon Ball Z, to insure the distinction. Then again, if its obvious that the 'Z' was given only in this anime (and in the second part of the American version of the manga), why would it have to be mentioned here? Lord Sesshomaru
I dunno, I suppose it is just a triviality, but I just don't like to assume that things that are obvious to some are obvious to others. I mean, there's a good number of people who can completely overlook things, no matter how glaringly obvious said thing is. But again, you obviously know how things work around here better than I do, and I agree with you 'cept for what I said in the start of this. So, I'm just gonna say I have no objections at all. If nobody says anything, you'll have no one opposing the removal of that sentence. It was nice to talk to someone about an article, by the way. I think this might be the first time I've actually had a discussion like this with someone.  :x Lychosis T/C 02:39, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
Nice talking to you too. I say 2-3 days before I remove that whole bit. If you have any questions about the Dragon Ball series, please feel free to ask me. I contribute regulary at the special Dragon Ball wikia as well. My official account there is User:Burdock since I don't edit there by ip anymore. Lord Sesshomaru
I believe that information comes from one of the Shenron Times released in the Daizenshuu. I do remember seeing it mentioned in an interview all the same, however. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xyex (talk • contribs) 22:58, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

<Unverified sentence on article removed. Please view this link, if you wish to understand reasoning.> Lord Sesshomaru

Oopsy...

Haha, half asleep and I did that revert wrong, looked at it completely the wrong way. I thought that the Anon IP has added that stuff. Sorry, guys.  :x Lychosis T/C 16:54, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

14th DBZ Movie???

This was added by someone:

[[Dragon Ball Z: The last stand of The Z Fighters: - Saiyans Rebirth] (2008) - Confirmed

They claim it's confirmed, but where's the source? I won't believe it until there's proof it's actually being made. Schaef Dogg 18:59, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

its a fake, search for it on google, you get zero results--Mhart54com 08:17, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

seemGoogle... Really? Google is the last search engine I'd ever use for an unreleased, undated, and improbable media/film production. No offense if I snobby. I wouldn't even use wikipedia if I didn't know it was being edited by people who knew thier stuff. Also on youtube I've tooken a glimpse of an odd 'movie'. It sure seemed real. Strange enough, Future Trunks was in it. The Z fighters ( atleast the main Z fighters a.k.a all the saiyans-and Picoolo if I'm not mistaken-) were fighting a robot. it wasn't an android or some type of artificial lifeform but a robot the ones in DragonBall. i'm also sure Toriyama is working on the new game Blue Dragon. Still, a foureenth movie would be awesome.-Eric —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.150.75.230 (talk) 01:17, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

you know it isn't right to pose as an anonymous editor, and im sure the video you saw was the dragonbll Z OVA--Blue-EyesGold Dragon 00:56, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

OVA

"Another Story: Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans" does not fit the definition of an OVA. An OVA, according to Wikipedia is:

"is a term used for anime titles that are released direct-to-video, without prior showings on TV or in theaters. OVA titles were originally available on VHS, though they later became available on other media such as Laserdisc and DVD. OVA is sometimes used to refer to any short anime series or special regardless of its release format."

While the last sentence ends with "regardless of its release format", most OVA's are direct to video releases. "Another Story: Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans" is nothing more than a video someone compiled from the various scenes from the game Dragon Ball Z: Shin Saiyajin Zenmatsu Keikaku - Chikyū-Hen and Dragon Ball Z: Shin Saiyajin Zenmetsu Keikaku - Uchū-Hen. MastaFighta 06:26, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

but the Japanese call it an OVA is that not good enough?--Mhart54com 08:16, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
"is nothing more than a video someone compiled" yes and that someone would happen to be TOEI animation!, which would also be why "the japanese call it an OVA", it was released on video, so TOEI could squeeze an extra buck out of DBZ. something which you would know had you actually checked the article for said OVA (This is an OVA, first released on VHS August 6th 1993, just after the Famicom game ... The OVA has been re-released in 2003 in Japan as an extra feature in the "Dragon Box" DVD boxed set. see, that's two releases of the thing as an OVA)68.255.174.7 16:38, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Live action movie

a live action movie has already been made its called "Dragonball: The Magic Begins" but it is for the dragonball series--Mhart54com 04:01, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

I did a quick 2 min check on this movie. It is an unoffficial chinese movie published in 1989. It's not a fan movie, but still unofficial.. I'm not sure on whether it should be mentioned. - Zero1328 Talk? 07:38, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
It is still a dragonball movie, yes it is an unoffficial chinese movie--Mhart54com 07:52, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

There is DBZ movie comeing out see more info here [1] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.191.91.213 (talk) 23:11, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia&myfavoritegames.com

The site http://www.myfavoritegames.com, and its administrators have found information taken from their site and placed on Wikipedia. They wish that this information be checked and removed as soon as possible.

They would also request that information from their site not be added to wikipedia. if you could go through and remove the information throughout many of the dragon ball Z articles in question, it would be greatly appreciatedTensa Zangetsu 18:36, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

I should note that we are all volunteers here. You would probably get a better result if you searched for and removed the text yourself. Also, I would say that there is no need for you to ask for it to be not added to Wikipedia; such an act is illegal. I am only talking about direct copy-pasting though. If it is original writing you're looking at, it's completely fine, but perhaps a citation could be used.. - Zero1328 Talk? 06:16, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
Ah, I should've looked beforehand before commenting. It seems that you should all be already aware of what I just said.. woops. - Zero1328 Talk? 06:20, 3 September 2007 Colt 45. and 3 six axe, baby thats all we need, we can go to the park after dark smoke that tub a weed and i said a roll roll roll my joint pick out the seeds and stems we'll get high as heck okay cool

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Film debate

People have been wondering if the dragonball z live action film article should be merged with the dragonballz article. So there has been voting. To vote and express your opinion, go to

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Dragon_Ball_Z_%28film%29

every vote makes a difference.

--Cman7792 20:29, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Uncut season 4

Uncut Season 4 (Garlic - Android saga) has been confirmed and will come out february of 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5gCc-W-ou8 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.114.167.210 (talk) 03:01, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

why is thereno plot sumery in this article —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.31.103.10 (talk) 04:42, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Article Changes

Most of the information has been butchered. There is little or no useful information regarding the series itself. This is the same with many DBZ articles, there is either too little information or the info is worthless and boring. I dont see why every time you wiki-nerds see something you dont agree with you have to delete it. This article sucks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.26.197.68 (talk) 19:19, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Then be bold and do something about it. Though I can't say many will sid with you. // DecaimientoPoético 22:29, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

At least we can look at the better version in the history tab.24.154.94.204 11:48, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

About the live action movie

The Filmmaker James Wong has reportedly come aboard to direct the live-action feature film version of Dragon Ball Z. The film is expected to start production in Montreal in November.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=37957

http://movies.ign.com/articles/824/824447p1.html

Should we add this info or not? It official because it from IGN and Comeingsoon.net.

Here's the CHUD article- http://www.chud.com/index.php?type=news&id=12002Onikage725 01:42, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Then we should add it then because it official. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.191.91.213 (talk) 01:14, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

CHUD is not a reliable source. Alientraveller 21:21, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
I agree with Alientraveller -- let's not rush with a movie blog that relies on "an old and trusted scooper named Tailgunner Joe". When a more reliable source independently reports the information in a more official capacity, we can then include it. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 21:23, 5 October 2007 (UTC)


Agreed. When (if) the project goes into development, this should be easily verifiable. Onikage725 23:10, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

It was posted on IGN which is a reliable source. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.191.91.213 (talk) 04:37, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

No, the source is some friend of CHUD's. Alientraveller 09:28, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
IGN is merely passing on the information found at CHUD.com because not all Net-savvy film-lovers go to CHUD.com. In addition, if you notice the very article title at IGN, it says, "Dragon Ball Z Director? - Final Destination filmmaker said to be helming." This is not confirmed in the slightest. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 16:11, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

The Live action Movie's wiki page states that it will be based on the story of lord piccolo etc from DRAGON BALL and not DRAGON BALL Z. It seems that its only source is CHUD which actually says "I know jack nor shit about Dragon Ball (is there supposed to be a Z in there?)". I think we can safely say that this is not conclusive and that the movie could be based on either DB or DBZ. - Pachang —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pachang (talk • contribs) 11:53, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Plot Hole with Training

I probably missed something, but aren't the gravity in the Room of Spirit and Time the same as North Kai's planet? If this is the case, why would Son Goku have trouble walking on North Kai's planet if he had already trained in the Room of Spirit and Time? He is also much stronger when on King Kai's Planet in DBZ than as a child in DB so I can't find a conclusion.[[UserSxeFluff--SxeFluff 23:14, 14 October 2007 (UTC)]] 18:19, 15 October 2007

Most likely just a plot hole.--60 Delta 01:13, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
It was said the gravity in the RoSaT varies, so it could have been even higher than on King Kai's planet. But Goku only stayed in there a month as a kid and may not have ventured out very far from the shrine portion. Kami might have told him he couldn't take the gravity and only sent him in there for the extra time to train. Of course, that's entirely speculation.172.169.27.230 18:10, 10 November 2007 (UTC)