Talk:Dragon Ball Z: Wrath of the Dragon

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[edit] The Title

Accordng every source that I ever read Bakuhatsu is explosion not assault. Also Ryuken Bakuhatsu is teh proper name of the move as the original ended in an explosion. Bakuhatsu is also explosion in my Japanese Dictionary.


[edit] Cleanup

This article is terrible. Toriyama did not "write" this film, and it isn't any more "canon" as any of the others.--88.105.241.73 02:16, 21 April 2006 (UTC)


It's not canon sure, but I'm pretty sure he did write this film however. sorry. 202.7.202.2 09:13, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

No. He didn't. [1] JRP 13:01, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Hmmm, okay then. 202.7.202.2 05:57, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DVD Release

Will it be released on 22 August on DVD? Or in cinemas?

The DVD will be released to stores on September 12. However, at the Wizard World convention in Chicago on the weekend of Aug. 4-6, Funimation was selling the DVD as a special Convention eclusive. Those who were at the convention were able to get their hands on it a month early.--The Great Morgil

[edit] Continuity

which is absolutely impossible as Tapion and all the characters and events of this movie never existed in Future Trunks' universe.

I find that line highly speculative, honestly. I'm sorry, but we meet Mirai Trunks for the first time (chronologically) when he was older than Chibi Trunks was in this movie. We never see how he gets a sword, and it would be fair to say that or to offer that Hildegarne would have been too powerful for just Gohan in that timeline, but a blanketstatement about what did or did not exist during a time period we were never shown is fan speculation and nothing more. Onikage725 22:00, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Why can't we delete the continuity part? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:TrunksDBGTSword.PNG the sword that chibi trunks gets is NOT the sword that future trunks has,so theres no point claiming that just because they showed a part and a different part in the credits means that its future trunks sword.Also another image http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/2606/trunksyoungholdingsword9vh.jpg this was a scene re drawed by someone showing CHIBI trunks holding HIS Sword, That can NOT be future trunks.

It's already well known that the sword Chibi Trunks receives in movie 13 is not Future Trunks' sword. It *could* be the sword that adult Trunks has in GT though.--GeneralDuke 22:40, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

I changed it before and you reverted it.

[edit] Number of Wishes

During the Cell Saga, Dende re-created the Earth's dragon balls and made it so that Shenlong could grant three wishes. Shenlong continues to grant three wishes up to Fusion Reborn and the end of Z (Kid Buu saga). But in Wrath of the Dragon, he is only able to grant one wish. Is that just a mistake or what? Sasuke-kun27 19:25, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Music Section

Is it really necessary to have a music section on the page with "This is the only DBZ movie with no opening."? It seems completely pointless to me. Sasuke-kun27 23:10, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Movie 13 on Toonami

Note: Wrath of the Dragon will be aired on Toonami on December 2, 2006. I have already added this to the article. Here is the link where I found the info:[2].--Wingedregent

[edit] possibility

It should be noted that Dragon Fist Explosion!! If Gokū Can't Do It, Who Will? or Wrath of the Dragon is the only DBZ movie that can be consider part in the anime portion of DBZ. Yes I know that the movies are not part and for good reason as to not throw off from the manga and anime that follows it. However anime wise as I said this movie can be and here is the facts why.

-The movie takes place some time after the Buu saga but before the end of DBZ.

-The Dragonballs - As you know during the Buu saga, A wiah was made after the Kid Buu was killed to erase Buu from the minds of Earth's peoples. Its unknown if a second wish was made. In the movie the balls have been recharged meaning at less 6 months as past since the Buu saga but no more than year or two do to the age appearance of Goten and Trunks.

Son Goku - 1st Goku is alive. 2nd he has the ablility to go SS2 and SS3(it may be hard to spot to the untrained DB fan but Goku does go SS2 in the movie. Remember when he rose from the rubble with debris flying around him, look at his hair closely). 3rd he has his newest most powerful physical attack, the RYUKEN(Dragon fist or Dragon fire as in the movie).

-Son Gohan - Gohan has his new power, the True hidden power of Gohan, I don't call Mystic because Dai Kaioshin just release the hidden power Gohan had since he was a child that grew in power as Gohan grew up.

-Son Goten and Trunks - Have the Fusion ability and Gotenks can go SS3, and at the end of the movie Trunks is given his sword(which is NOT the Sword the Mirai Trunks has or had).

-Videl - She has her new Sayia uniform but she also use it during the actual DBZ series.

-Vegeta - He is alive and kicking.

Oh where is Buu, Piccolo and the others during the fight? 1st the battle takes place in West City where Capsule Corps is and not in Satan City so Buu was with Mr. Satan at the time. Remember West City and Satan city are two diffenet cities. Though sometimes they make it seem like its just one. Piccolo and the other? That there is unknown. Also why is Gohan and Videl in that city fighting the monster when they protect Satan City? Because they can FLY and they flew to the fight.

Now how does this make this movie a part of the anime part of DB? Here's how.

In DBGT most of the above notes have appeared in the movie but not in the actual anime of DBZ. Also to be noted that many fans do not consider GT a part of Akira Toriyama Manga Universe. The creator of Dragonball who may not have drew a manga or himself drew the anime of GT but has acknowledge that GT is part of the DB Anime Series and that the show may have be the way he would have planned it if he continued with DB, but this is about the movie being part of the Anime so lets get back to that.

-Goku has his Ryuken attack that he uses TWICE in the GT series. A move he never used in DBZ and a similar move in DB against Piccolo Daimaō.

-the sword of Tapion - Though it did not make a actual apperance in the anime it was show in the opening credits and the credits is part of the anime meaning that Trunks has that sword and that it is the sword given to him by Tapion.

-Videl has her Sayia uniform that she is seen using in the movie and in the anime.

Yes I know that the movie was never mentioned in GT but with those facts and other you may find can put this movie as a positive source for some of the items seen in GT. Heat P 05:59, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

One problem is GT isn't canon it self. Only the manga written by Akira Toryama is canon. And even if GT was, canon can barrow from non-canon with out making it canon. Bobby D. DS. 03:53, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
  • PS: Start a line with a '*' to make a bulleted list

First off you and no other fan can tell anyone what is canon and non canon (I'm not taking anything personal so don't feel I am taking what you said to heart). You are not expert canonical personal, only Akira Toriyama can and he has OPENLY accept Dragonball GT as a canonical Dragonball series. That is not an Original Reseach either. You can find it on the internet that he has accepted it. Second as the ANIME goes, not the manga, it is a very canon anime series that happens after Dragonball Z. Three if canonical is a big part of this then even Dragonball Z is non canon because it may follow the manga but it has many things that are not in the manga itself. Plotholes, Much Longer Fights, Fillers, Dialoge, Reworked story telling. Want me to go on because I can? So just because you and other fans DO NOT WANT Dragonball GT to be canon does not make it non canon. Despite it have plothole which Dragonball Z has just as many, it follows Dragonball to the T. So I fell that the movie can be consider a MIDWAY point between the series as it has a few things that are show in GT that are not in the Dragonball Z series. Yes it is only my opinion but it is backed up with facts. Borrowing something my not make it canon but it also can. I am not saying put the movie as a canon piece of Dragonball. I am only saying and showing with facts that it is possible to say that movie 13 is part of the story between Z and GT not part of the actual series. What so hard to believe? Remember you and others do not feel GT is non canon so whats so hard to say that a non canon movie can be put into a possible aspect of a non canon series? That is all I am saying. Heat P 12:56, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Hey don't even worry about writing back about this because i shouldn't have wrote this as it really has nothing to do with the article. I wrote this in a forum way so just disregard this stuff i wrote. thank you and sorry for that.
Heat P 07:59, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] What Planet

Whats the official name of the planet Tapion is from? I've seen Konack and Konats - a little google and some basic japanese gets me the original as コナッツ [konattsu]

  • Alright, the Funimation dub has it planet Konas

[edit] this sounds like original research

"Tapion seems to be based off of Link from The Legend of Zelda, more specifically his Ocarina of Time form, since he has an ocarina and sword."

Especially since this movie came out about three years before Ocarina of Time. If anything, it'd be the other way around... WtW-Suzaku (talk) 23:50, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

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