Talk:Dragon (Middle-earth)

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The expansions are based on a piece I did for Everything2 some time ago. --Mirv 03:48, 26 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Pardon me, I know nothing of this. The article says one class of dragons have only front legs. I presume it should say they have only hind legs (plus maybe wings).

Paul, in Saudi

Front legs is right I think, the published descriptions make reference to the dragons dragging themselves along the ground rather than walking. Stan 17:27, 21 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Hi, I think it might be a good idea to merge the articles about individual dragons with this one. They are quite stubby and may be there's not much more to say about them. What do you think? Lady Tenar 01:21, 22 Feb 2004 (UTC)

The other reason to have separate articles is if there are lots of links to them, and you don't want to make the reader wade through a long article to answer a simple question. By that standard, only Smaug and Glaurung can justify their own articles - which makes sense because they are the only two "personalities" among the dragons mentioned in Tolkien. Stan 01:38, 22 Feb 2004 (UTC)

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The dragons that the Ringwraiths rode were a type of Wyvern. They had legs and wings but no forelegs. They could not breath fire but the screeches they let out were high enough in pitch that they caused paralysis and instant fear. The Witch King's dragon was the leader of the Nine dragons and the most powerful. It is said that this dragon was strong enough to smash the walls of Minas Tirith with its claws. The claws were about a foot long and razor sharp and there were 4 of these on both feet of the dragons. Three toes pointed forward and one toe backward much like a bird's foot does.

The dragons however were rather weak and if a spear was thrown right, the dragon would die. Also the Witch King's dragon was beheaded by Eowyn as it tried to kill her grandfather or father I'm not sure which. The dragons had HUGE fangs and these fangs were said to have venom.

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Why I removed it:

  • These were called fell beasts, not dragons.
  • They might have resembled wyverns but they were never named as such.
  • I believe the fear and paralysis were caused by the Nazgul, not their mounts.
  • The Witch-King's mount was not, in any description, different from the others.
  • If it was strong enough to smash the walls of Minas Tirith, why did they even bother with a siege?
  • The two that are killed were killed with an arrow and a sword, not a spear.
  • Theoden is Eowyn's uncle.
  • Who says their fangs are venomous?

—Charles P. (Mirv) 21:08, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was move. —Nightstallion (?) 09:56, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed move

Please see the relevant discussion at Talk:Elves (Middle-earth). savidan(talk) (e@) 09:45, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Dragon size

At least one anonymous user, represented by a few different IP addresses, has been adding information about dragon size - which as far as I am aware isn't present in the books. I have to ask him/her, where are you getting this from? David Day? If so, he is actually unreliable - read this - http://tolkien.slimy.com/essays/DayBooks.html Uthanc 19:59, 24 November 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Two dragons from the game

There are 2 dragons from the game 's of the lord of the rings, not of tolkien, but from Electronic arts and codemasters: Drogoth ( The batle for middle-eart 2) and the dragon of Helegoth (LOTRO)