User talk:Dr. Morbius

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[edit] Welcome

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[edit] Noise colors reply

See Talk:Pink_noise#Update_.26_merge_proposal — Omegatron 16:57, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Chronological order of Forward the Foundation relative to Foundation's Triumph

I really believe that the events of Foundation's Triumph occur after Forward the Foundation (except for the last epilogue of Seldon slummed dead at the table). If you recall Foundation's triumph tells the story of Seldon's last adventure *after* making the recording for the time vault. By that point Dor is of course dead, so the fact that Dor died in Forward the foundation means nothing. Aarontay 20:29, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

My mistake. You're absolutely right. In fact I just checked and Dors is dead at the start of Foundation and Chaos. It has been a while since I read the books and I was going by memory and that was one of the things I had forgotten. Of course, there's only a few things I remember about the Second Foundation Trilogy since I wasn't very happy with it in the first place. I thought that the second trilogy should have taken place after Foundation and Earth. They could have used the same story lines just set the events after the discovery of Earth. They didn't need Hari Seldon. The problem with the second trilogy was that they couldn't do anything to change the history of the Foundation since all of that was set in stone with the first trilogy, Foundation's Edge, and Foundation and Earth. I just wasn't very happy with the second trilogy. Dr. Morbius 20:03, 27 April 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Irrefutable evidence that you are wrong

There are a an inifinte number of ways that reality could be interpreted, as everything we believe depends upon some basic assumptions at the lowest level. As a result any particular view of reality is likely to be wrong (inconsistent or incomplete) in some way. Refer to "Goedel's Theorem" for more information. However this in itself is not necessarily "Irrefutable evidence that you are wrong", as there remains a (possibly infinitely small) chance that you are correct as I have made an assumption in my first statement, and Goedel does allow your position to be consistent but incomplete. What is irrefutable evidence that you are wrong, however, is that you do not entertain the possibility of you being in error. Clearly this is illogical given the facts. Thus, sir, you are wrong. P.S. This is tongue-in-cheek.... Dndn1011 00:00, 26 July 2007 (UTC)


Hello Doctor: I'm enjoying the discussion at "Consciousness causes Collapse". I almost totally agree with you that the subject is nonsense. I just have this slight niggling uncertainty which leads me to not label something as nonsense just because I do not comprehend it.
"I do not give up easily. The only way you'll win an argument with me is to provide irrefutable evidence that I am wrong." - That is a challenge.
Back in September, you wrote "That's why this article is full of references to people and institutions that lack credibility and to pseudoscience like What the bleep do we know and The Secret." Speaking of "The Secret", have you read the article "Law of Attraction"? I think it has a lot in common with "consciousness causes collapse". The veneer of science is thinner on "law of attraction".
Cheers, Wanderer57 03:52, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
Yikes, I hadn't seen that article. Wow, that's scary stuff. I know someone who has read The Secret and is constantly mentioning stuff like "we are all made of energy". I can't help but roll my eyes at them. I'm trying my hardest to explain to them what QM is really all about. I'm making some progress. The funny thing is I don't even remember how I discovered the article on CCC. I think I was reading the article on QM then I saw the reference to Quantum Mind and then saw the CCC reference. The only reason I pick on CCC is that I see it as the epitome of the types of pseudoscience that exist within WP. Besides the fact that there aren't enough hours in a day to deal with all the nonsense in WP. My main goal is to make sure that wherever pseudoscience exists in WP that it be labeled as such and that there be no doubt as to it's lack of credibility. Dr. Morbius 07:01, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Actually, there appears to be an experiment which supports CCC. I'm seeking some intelligent input and debate on the subject on its talk page. It's entirely possible that the details of the experiment were presented wrong (I'm still hunting for a quality source) but as presented, I believe it offers very compelling evidence of CCC--and I say am saying this as a secular atheist whom regularly rolls his eyes when he hears most people talking about new age ideas. --Lode Runner 03:43, 24 October 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Consciousness causes collapse merger

I missed the original discussion, but the nature of the merger seems quire unjustified to me. There is basically no discussion at all of the original subject matter of consciousness causes collapse on Quantum Mysticism, (unlike Quantum mind, and Copenhagen interpretation. The reader is effectively being told that the subject is nonsense without being told why. That is not how good encyclopedias work. Some sort of merger might have been a good idea, but this is WP:POV and censorship.1Z (talk) 22:55, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

The problem is that nobody has bothered to merge the CCC article with Quantum mysticism. I guess everybody is waiting for someone else to do it and no one has stepped up. What happened to all those people that were defending CCC? This is my first experience with article mergers but I'm guessing that the people who were defenders of the original article should be the ones to merge the content. Dr. Morbius (talk) 21:24, 4 March 2008 (UTC)