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[edit] Dover's Future

How about news on Dover's future plans, the Dover Harbour Board redevelopment? There has been a lot of local press and is pretty major. There is of course the long-running St. James's area redevelopment plans that should get a mention. IJMacD 22:37, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism

Though 198.54.202.242 vandalised a couple of times earlier in the day, his/her final edit did actually identify an inaccuracy in the article: there does now appear to be a regular Dover-Boulogne ferry again. Will amend the article to reflect this. Matthewmayer 19:03, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Moved from article

I have moved this from the article cause I'm not sure what to do with it.

[edit] Local Radio - Neptune Radio, Dover's Own Station

Dover's local radio station came to air as Neptune Radio on the 29th September 1997 at 7am after closing as a month long trial at 3am the same morning. The trial station was known as "The Sound" which broadcast both to White Cliffs Country (Dover) and Shepway (Folkestone) as two stations "Shepway Sound" and "White Cliffs Sound" throughout the 1990's. The station was due to come on air as "The Sound" however changed it's name to Neptune Radio due to it's closeness to the sea. The station actually has it's roots in the 1970's as pirate radio station Channel Radio, run by Dovorian Eddie Austin. Austin also was one of the founder members of Invicta FM, Kent's commercial wide station and also worked on Radio Caroline. He got numerous fines but vowed to keep fighting until the town had it's own licence. Channel Radio broadcast only over the Dover area. The station came on air in 1997 broadcasting from one of the oldest buildings in Dover, next door to the Kent Messenger offices at 7 Church Street, near to the town's Market Square being a central location. The station has it's own mascot "King Neptune" and was a truly local station with attendance at numerous local events. It broadcast on 96.4 FM (Folkestone) and 106.8FM (Dover) and won UK Radio Station of the Year twice in 1999 and 2000. It's successful format was later applied to it's sister stations Arrow in Hastings and Sovereign Radio in Eastbourne when the station was bought by Radio Investments limited. A group from Neptune Radio also applied for the Ashford licence under the name Ashford FM spearheaded by Mark Carter, however they did not gain the licence. In 2001 the Kent Messenger bought Neptune Radio and moved the station not long after from Dover to Folkestone however still using the Dover offices for news reports. In 2003 the station was a rebranded as KM-fm Dover & Folkestone, the end of the era of local radio as from now on programming was networked with other KM-fm's with news piped in from Canterbury. Eddie Austin now lives in Malaysia. Recently the KM-fm offices/studios and Kent Messenger Offices in Dover moved to the old Dover Express offices in the High Street, Dover with a KM-fm sign, so perhaps there are going to be studios in Dover again with local programming. However Neptune Radio was a successful station reaching 30,000 people a week. KM-fm however still has yet to prove it can be as good as Neptune Radio.

This is rather POV and looks like it has been copied from somewhere. perhaps it should be NPOV ed and put in its own article somewhere. I dont see how this much detail about a radio station can be justified on the main dover page. Any thoughts anyone. G-Man 20:04, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Dorers clossness to france:

It is the closest English point of proximity to France and continental Europe being only 21 miles (34 kilometres) from the French port of Calais. The French name of Dover is Douvres, pronounced [duvʀ]. It is famous for its white cliffs, which are made of chalk. The cliffs gave Britain its nickname of Albion, meaning "white". The town's name derives from the Brythonic word for water.

Dover is not the clossest point to france, i belever St margrate at Cliff is closser. it is the closest port. but to say its the closest POINT is misleading. as of now, im not quite sure what is the closest point. tooto 2 July 2005 13:51 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup Needed (15:47, 18 July 2006 (UTC))

I've begun cleaning this article up (wikifying, moving images for better distribution, etc.), but a lot more is needed. Especially in need is the History section (and below, to a lesser extent).

[edit] History Section (18:55 6 September 2006 BST )

The history section jumps rather alarmingly from the Romans to post Conquest times. Did nothing interesting happen there?

[edit] cleaned up infobox a bit

Cleaned up and added the essential info to the infobox.

The population counts from the census read as follows:

K91900 Dover Urban Area    39,078
 K91901 Dover                   34,087
 K91902 Whitfield               4,991

I chose the urban count, please change if that isn't correct. Hjbotha 14:17, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Collaboration

As mentioned on the Project Kent page, I am trying out an idea on a collaboration technique.

I have created a subpage which contains a section for every section on the main Dover article page. This makes it easier to keep track of specific comments and suggestions, whilst keeping the main talk page free of clutter.

To start with, I would suggest reading through the article, making comments as you go. Hopefully, a few people will voice an opinion, and we can start improving the article. At this stage, the collaboration page is useful for editors working on a particular section.

I have used the technique before, but this will be the first time it has had its own page. I welcome any comments or suggestions at Template talk:Collaborate.

MortimerCat 16:09, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

I declare the experiment an absolute failure!!! MortimerCat 18:49, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] More vandalism?

If not purely mischievous, the comment "It is also famous for its large population of Homosexuals" is any rate bizarre! Grubstreet 11:02, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Part rewrite

I have begun the rewriting of this article. Originally it was almost completely a series of lists, against Wiki polcy. So far I have:

  • rewritten the introduction, making it just a summary of the article
  • added a geography section
  • moved the history section to a new article History of Kent (also to be rejigged). I have written a summary para here
  • Collected together what were disparate statements under logical headings.
  • I still have to bring the remaining sections under the same format, including the list of people most of whom are too modern!

I did not understand why there was a long list of blogs; and many of the - too many IMO -references just repeated each other: never mind the quality, feel the width idea, I guess!

Please bear with me while I complete the task Peter Shearan (talk) 10:27, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

I have just breathed a sigh of relief that the most important sections of the article are ready for the public gaze. Note that:
  • I have tried to reduce the number of lists... It seemed a little too sketchy to simply list the ferry services, so have done some adding to the Shipping section - Dover is now much more than just ferries!
  • I have also added a Government section;
  • and a Culture section (which needs adding to - museums, arts etc)
  • there needs to be a religious section too (so often missed out, I have discovered);
  • and a communications section (roads, railways etc).
  • Surely there must have been some "famous people" in Dover's past - they are all the ephemeral people of today! (Shane Taylor, Topper Headon - wow how important are they??)
    • Very careless! the category listed many more and from the past. Since all the ones now listed have an article to themselves it seemed unnecessary to go into any more than brief details on the new article List of people from Dover, either; and I have added their dates Peter Shearan (talk) 14:06, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
As I said - ready for the public gaze, but I hope it reads these notes as well!!

Peter Shearan (talk) 15:18, 12 February 2008 (UTC)