Talk:Dov Ber of Mezeritch

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[edit] Teachings

The maggid taught human beings should become humble before the Holy One. According to the maggid, the ultimate state of humility is to become nothing (no thing) and realize that everything that is "not you" is an emanation of the Holy One.

Egoless and humble, the maggid gained insight into the human condition of jealousy and envy, and all the evil that ensues from these aberrations that can appear among men, women, children, and nations.

These valuable insights came through prayer, study, and meditation.

5764 shalom alechem

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[edit] Which Mezeritch?

In Ukraine, rather the one in Poland? Xx236 12:56, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

This one; Mezhirichi, Ukraine. Itzse 20:33, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Maggid was the student of Yaakov Falkner- Pnei Yehoshua

According to Chasidic Tales by Rav Aryeh Kaplan,Rabbi Dov Baer was a prominent student of Rav Yaakov Yehoshua Falkner. And it was R' Falkner's advice for Rav Baer to seek a Bracha from Rabbi Israel for his ailings (The Maggid was known to suffer many ailments during his lifetime). When the Maggid arrived, he heard the Baal Shem Tov tell tales of chariots and horses, and was disgusted by his "lack" of knowledge in Torah. But right before Rav Baer left, the Baal Shem Tov noticed and asked him a difficult question in Kabblah, which to Rav Baer's astonishment couldn't answer. The Baal Shem Tov told Rav Dov Baer that although he was a genious in the text of Kabbalah, he was far removed for its "soul." Legend has it that Rav Dov Baer has since become the student of the Baal Shem Tov to seek the "soul" of the Kabbalah and not just knowledge within the text.

The Pnei Yehoshua's name was not Falkner. He didn't have a surname at all. His name was Yaacov Yehoshua-Falk ben Yosef. Zsero 04:53, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

That the Maggid came to the Baal Shem Tov on the advice of the Pnei Yehoshua doesn't jive with what this article states that "he was a disciple of the Baal Shem Tov for only the last two years of the latter's life". The Pnei Yehoshua, Rabbi Jacob Joshua Falk died in January 1756 and the Baal Shem Tov died in the summer of 1760 (Shavuot), so when did he go on the advice of the Pnei Yehoshua?

Also the Maggid was born between the years 1704 and 1710. Some say he was older then the Baal Shem Tov, which means he was born before 1700 or 1698; therefore in 1756, the year that the Pnei Yehoshua died he would be at least 45 year old, highly unlikely to be then a pupil of the Pnei Yehoshua. Itzse 20:27, 18 June 2007 (UTC)