Talk:Douglas Jardine
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To see the tactics of Jardine in a fair light, it is worth noteing that there are various ways of getting a batsman out on a cricket pitch apart from bowling him out. This was what struck Jardine while watching the reels of Bradman playing. Instead of bowling the Australians out, he figured out a way to catch them out - a very fair and ingenious tactic. The ball was not pitched at the head: it was pitched elbow high, to the chest... the only way to deal with the delivery was either to pop a catch, or to get out of the way. Perfectly fair. - unsigned comment by 61.17.134.172 on 24 April, 2006]
to see it from jardine's point of view, and to use his quote "our bowling was too good to hook", it pretty much sums it up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chetta (talk • contribs) 09:30, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
after the australian series, jardine played in india, and the west indies. in the latter nation he was the target of the same balling that the australians resented; he replied by scoring his first test century —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chetta (talk • contribs) 09:34, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
- It may have been fair under the letter of the rules of cricket at the time, but it was outside the spirit of the rules, and outside the rules as they stand today, which were changed precisely to prevent this sort of dangerous tactic happening again. You can apologise for Jardine all you like, but the facts tell the story. -dmmaus 23:23, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
Bowling average in text does not equal bowling average in info-box. 203.122.226.234 14:28, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
- This has been rectified in the latest round of edits BartBassist (talk) 10:16, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] The Harlequin cap
Much is made about Jardine wearing the cap, and how Australians disliked it at as sign of superiority. Percy Chapman also habitually wore one and he was a very popular player when he played in Australia, and also won a series 4-1 against an Australian team that included Bradman. Phanto282 13:13, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] No refs
Esp for some of the out and out statments such as the one concerning the Adelaide Test —Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.255.55.74 (talk) 03:02, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Hatred of all things Australian
"It was whilst batting for Oxford University v the 1921 tourists that many think his hatred of all things Australian developed. The Australian captain Warwick Armstrong refused to allow play to continue past the scheduled end of play time with Jardine 96 not out, and set to make a century against them."
The article is asserting that Jardine hated Australia, her cricket team, her people, her funnel-web spiders, etc, because he never got the chance to make a first class 100 against an Australian XI?. That strike anyone else as being ludicrously petty? I'm glad there's a fact/unverified tag there, because if it's true, then that marks Jardine as a marvellously spiteful little person. Peter1968 (talk) 12:57, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Bodyline and Australia
Surely the claim that the current Australian cricket team is a master of employing bodyline bouncers (without the corresponding fielders) is POV and missing the point. Firstly, Australia can't bowl dangerous head-high balls over after over because there is a restriction on the number of bouncers per over. Secondly, whatever tactics the current team employs, it is a far cry from the intimidating and anti-spirit of the game tactics of bodyline - bodyline was specifically designed to prevent the batsmen scoring and was deemed unfair, hence the rule changes to prevent it happening again. There is a difference between playing hard and playing against the spirit of the game and the Australian team is surely innocent of the latter. I've deleted the offending section because of this.Wikischolar1983 (talk) 11:12, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
