Talk:Double-decker bus

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Contents 1 Re: First North American transit use of double deckers 2 Move to save the Routemaster bus 3 Phasing out of London buses: mistake? 4 Creation 5 Matterobus? 6 Misrepresentative, to say the least 7 There are Double-Deckers in Buenos Aires 8 How do you control gravitational effects?

[edit] Re: First North American transit use of double deckers

The article remarks that Victoria BC was the first North American city to employ double decker buses. This is incorrect. New York City used American built models early in the 20th century. Later, in the 1980s, British Leyland built buses were used on Fifth Avenue routes for several years. -{Ursosarctos) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ursosarctos (talk • contribs) 03:55, August 28, 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Move to save the Routemaster bus

I know awhile back there was a move to save the Routemaster bus from being phased out by many UK citizens. I think it would be worth a mention in this article. Does anyone have any information on it and think it would be a good addition to the article? Manufracture 02:43, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Phasing out of London buses: mistake?

Double-decker buses most certainly are not being phased out in London. They are still by far the most common type of bus in north London (where this author lives). I believe this article is mistakenly referring to the phasing out of the traditional "Routemaster" bus.

From MSNBC article http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4316040/ :

The snub-nosed vehicle, with its characteristic curved lines and hop-on, hop-off rear platform, is being replaced by bigger, boxier double deckers and articulated single-decker "bendy buses."

[edit] Creation

Currently the article says "They were created as a means of carrying large numbers of passengers without exceeding legal limits on vehicle length."

Is this true? The first double deckers were horse drawn [1][2][3] and like stage coaches had passangers on top. But was it to keep withing legal lenght limits, or the best way to keep the weight of the carrage down to maximise the number of passengers the horses could pull?

The average number in an omnibus at any one time is given as fourteen, and averaging these passengers at ten stone apiece, and throwing in the driver and conductor, we get a ton of live weight, to which we can add the ton and a half which the omnibus weighs, making up two-and-a-half tons for the pair to draw, and thus we arrive at the easily-remembered formula that the London omnibus horse draws a ton and a quarter twelve miles a day. He draws this at the rate of five miles an hour; he is bought when he is five years old; he works five years; he costs 35l. to buy and half-a-sovereign a week to feed; he is sold for a 5l. note; and lastly, and by no means less importantly, 'he is not a horse, but a mare.'[4]

--Philip Baird Shearer 20:38, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Matterobus?

What part of the world names a double-decker bus as a "matterobus"? Frankly this looks like a "joke" or "spoof" term. --TGC55 22:13, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Google returns with 3 hits. Insignificant I know, but at least the name exists. *shurg* deadkid_dk 02:41, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

All of those hits are related to "Wiki" sites. I did a Yahoo search and came up with something like 5 hits. All of these are sourced from "Wiki" sites. I think that the word "matterobus" is just a spoof word.--TGC55 14:08, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

I agree. I've repeated the Google search. The only hits for this word are from Wikipedia or sites that are clearly WP derived. We have been had. Removing reference. -- Chris j wood 09:37, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

I just found out that my son is responsibl for "matterobus". He tried to use the word in a Scrabble game with his grandpa and was challenged. To "prove" it was a word, he ran to his room, printed out the edited page, and showed it to his grandpa, who didn't know that the articles could be edited. At any rate, I apologize for the whole matterobus. ((Mozartgirl))

[edit] Misrepresentative, to say the least

Why is only London mentioned has having double deckers in common use? Most large cities in the UK also have large numbers of double deckers in their fleets.

Similarly, the list of operators would have to be greatly expanded to include First etc. who run bus services in Edinburgh etc.

Any particular reason for these omissions? Juux 00:31, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Actually, most towns in the UK that have regular bus services will see double deckers in regular use. Many services between towns are operated by double deckers. Single deckers are used on routes where there are height restrictions, due to low bridges, for example, but, at least in England, double deckers are the norm not the exception. Rayhol (talk) 21:15, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] There are Double-Deckers in Buenos Aires

I was recently in Buenos Aires, Argentina, and there are a lot of double-decker buses in use in the national transportation. I can't find any good info in english about it though.

[edit] How do you control gravitational effects?

This sentence does not make sense. How does one control gravitational effects? Maybe forces due to changes in direction of the bus, but not due to gravitational effects. It must be a misprint or something. Am i missing something?

From the first paragraph: "The first one is for primary operation and the second one is for controlling the vibrational and gravitational effects which may abrupt due the course of design of such buses."

Thanks,

Sirtrebuchet (talk) 04:13, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

That sentence is rubbish. I would like to remove it. Does anyone object? Rayhol (talk) 21:15, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

It's nonsense. Please do. 132.244.246.25 (talk) 09:47, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Have done, but I forgot to sign the changes! Rayhol (talk) 23:22, 26 December 2007 (UTC)