User talk:DotShell
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[edit] Jain userbox
Just did. Although you forgot to sign your post. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 20:43, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Message
Are you a vegetarian? Batzarro 14:08, 15 January 2006 (UTC) That was not vandalism
[edit] Jainism
Have you been a JAin all your life. Do you follow Hinduism too? Batzarro 14:50, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] symbol
What is the symbol of jainismBatzarro 05:28, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
I am a South Indian Hindu. Batzarro 05:39, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
My roots are form Tamil Nadu but I live in Australia Batzarro 05:48, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
Where do you live. I also believe that India is becoming more corrupt. In the North,Sharuk khan,Amitab and Aishwarya Rai are Gods. In the South,Kamal Hassan and Rajini are Gods. When they die they will be worshipped like Gandhi(AT least he did something useful).
What's your native language Batzarro 06:11, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
Are you of Indian origin. I am a 3rd generation Sri Lankan(My great-grendparents were from India).I live in MElbourne but I am currently on vacation in Sri Lanka. Were yalways a jain Batzarro 06:53, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
Hindi is a hard language to learn. I speak English,Tamil,Sinhala(sri lankan languae),French,Spanish. See my user page babel
Sinhala is spoken by 75% of Sri LAnka.It is very hard and similar to East Indian languages. I am 18 how old are you anyway.
Are you a guy or a girl Batzarro 16:54, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
How did you get to be so obsessed with India,Indian Culture,Indian Religion, Batzarro 16:56, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
Are you a gu or a girl Batzarro 17:04, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
Do you have a hard time being a vegetarian.I cant have a meal without meat. Do you know that jains aint supposed to eat seeds(you are destroying life)they have to throw it on sand.
Strict jains close their mouth at all times and carry a broom on the road to sweep away insects which may be trampled.
Some even dont brush because you are killing germs. Anyway,jains dont believe in haircuts,they pull everything out in case there are bugs. Batzarro 17:10, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Buddhism
Trust me,I ve moved with a few Jains. Mouth covering and the seed thing is practiced. The broom thing yes. I doubt the not brushing and hair pulling are practiced. Have you tried buddhism? Batzarro 17:19, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
What do your parents say about your religion?
OK sorry about the formalities,I am a Hindu but I have read about many other religions from sufism to Bahai. Jainism is practiced mainly in the west of India.
[edit] Expand Ghee
Dear Dot Shell:
I am glad that you have joined the Wikipedians! Please feel free to add material to the Ghee article, such as the additions that you proposed on Talk:Ghee under the heading Expand. That is what Wikipedians do, and there is no need to obtain "permission."
Also, it would be helpful if you sign and date your remarks on Talk pages, even on your own User Talk page. That makes it easier for everyone to follow the discussion. The Welcome message on your Talk page gives you a "shortcut" for doing this.
Thanks, again, for your contributions to Wikipedia and for joining us!
—Finell (Talk) 23:04, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Welcome to Esperanza!
Welcome, DotShell, to Esperanza, the Wikipedia member association! As you might know, all the Esperanzians share one important goal: the success of this encyclopedia. Within that, we then attempt to strengthen the community bonds, and be the "approachable" side of the project. All of our ideals are held in the Charter, the governing document of the association.
Now that you are a member you should read the guide to what to do now or you may be interested in some of our programs. A quite important program is the StressUnit, which seeks to support editors who have encountered any stress from their Wikipedia events, and are seeking to leave the project. So far, Esperanza can be credited with the support and retention of several users. Redwolf24 runs the spam to keep members up to date. Also, we have a calendar of special events, member birthdays, and other holidays that you can add to and follow.
In addition to these projects, several more missions of Esperanza are in development, and are currently being created at Esperanza/Possibles.
I encourage you to take an active voice in the running of Esperanza. We have a small government system, headed by our Administrator general, Celestianpower, and guided by the Advisory Committee comprised of FireFox, Flcelloguy, Titoxd, and Karmafist. The next set of elections will be in February, and I would be glad to see you vote, or even consider running for a position.
If you have any other questions, concerns, comments, or general ideas, Esperanzian or otherwise, know that you can always contact Celestianpower by email or talk page or the Esperanza talk page. Alternatively, you could communicate with fellow users via our IRC channel, #wikipedia-esperanza (which is also good for a fun chat or two :). I thank you for joining Esperanza, and look forward to working with you in making Wikipedia a better place to work!
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[edit] Please do NOT add categories to userboxes
I'm removing the categories from political and relgious userboxes because it's not acceptable to categorize users by their beliefs. Please see Jimbo's comments. He's gone so far as to ask users to remove these userboxes entirely. I'm only removing the aspect of userboxes that's most harmful. Again, please do NOT add categories back to the userboxes. Feel free to discuss your concerns at Wikipedia talk:Proposed policy on userboxes. Thanks. Carbonite | Talk 15:46, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Userbox defense group.
Go for it. I'm with you. Keep in touch. Cjmarsicano 16:23, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
- Good. Now all it needs is a userbox to go with it. Cjmarsicano 16:45, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] STOP!
I just made it! User:Cjmarsciano/UDUIW
[edit] Re: Userboxes
Thank you for supporting userboxes. I am requesting that you join UDUIW with one of the methods that I have outlined. Thank you. --Shell 17:37, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
- Well, I created WP:UB to help organise userboxes, and I make my statements because I am against the censorship and generic template we are expected to follow as Wikipedians outline in the gven view. If we are not allowed free speech, and Wiki is turned into a unjust dictatorship, I feel many would not be prepared to be part of it. In my opinion we need POV amoungst editors (not in articles) in order to establish an accurate and well balanced article, and to keep the community thriving, otherwise Wikipedia will only destroy itself. I do however appologise, but I am not prepared to join UDUIW, I am to be neutral in my work, and not be associated with an aspect of not comprimising, I wish you good luck, and I will continue to support allowing people to state their individuality, and I fear it will soon reach the state where even a userpage is not acceptable. Ian13ID:540053 17:49, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
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- Hi. I am writing an article about this for the Wikipedia Signpost. Could you please explain to me on my talk page(of course) why you are doing this!? Thank You
[edit] Template
No, I would like to join the group, I have no problem adding the template to my talk page. Even though I should be neutral, I agree. But just one question: Do you dissaprove of innapropriate userboxes that say mean things about particular groups of people? Thanks, WikieZach 23:08, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Image
I changed the jain icon. Dont fussBatzarro 12:19, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Image Tagging Image:Gota.jpg
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Thanks for uploading Image:Gota.jpg. I notice the image page currently doesn't specify who created the image, so the copyright status is therefore unclear. If you have not created the image yourself then you need to argue that we have the right to use the image on Wikipedia (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the image yourself then you should also specify where you found it, i.e., in most cases link to the website where you got it, and the terms of use for content from that page.
If the image also doesn't have a copyright tag then you must also add one. If you created/took the picture then you can use {{GFDL}} to release it under the GFDL. If you believe the image qualifies as fair use, please read fair use, and then use a tag such as {{Non-free fair use in|article name}} or one of the other tags listed at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags#Fair_use. See Wikipedia:Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.
If you have uploaded other images, please check that you have specified their source and copyright tagged them, too. You can find a list of image pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any unsourced and untagged images will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Nv8200p talk 22:00, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Images
Every image on Wikipedia requires a source, no matter what license is used. See Wikipedia:Image_use_policy#Rules_of_thumb -Thanks Nv8200p talk 22:07, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Ready?
I am preparing to start a arbcom. case about userboxes. Would you like to join me in that? WikieZach 18:16, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Your sig
I don't mean to be rude or pushy, but would you put a link to your user page in your sig? I have seen you sig several times and clicked to Esperanza on your sig and then went back into the history to find out who actualy said that. It's kind of irritating. Anyways, if you're not going to do that, you might want to bypass the redirect in your sig (it currently points at Wikipedia:Esperanza). Broken Segue 19:44, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
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- Also, your "signature" does not really identify you. No one can discover that {graphic} Shell is DotShell. The base of any user's signature should be the user's username, linked. Adding a link to your talk page is very helpful (most experienced Wikipedians do it), but not required. The links to the graphic and to Wikipedia:Esperanza are misleading, and therefore frustrating to those who are trying to have a discussion with you. It would also be polite to respond to those who post messages on your talk page. Thanks, Finell (Talk) 01:36, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
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- Thanks, that is much better. However, anyone who accidentally, or mistakenly, clicks on the graphic is transported somewhere where he or she did not intend to go. Also, no one will understand what the <e> link is (email, perhaps, which some Wikipedians put in their signatures) until he or she clicks it; but perhaps that is intentional, as your way of causing more people to find out about Esperanza. Thanks for answering me and for paying attention to others' sentiments. Finell (Talk) 04:01, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] User:Jimbo, virama fix?
I noticed you just added a virama to User:Jimbo Wales's Devanagari name. In modern Hindi (as opposed to Sanskrit written in Devanagari), isn't the Virama always dropped at the end of a word?
Thanks,
Arun 02:50, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Reply
Yo - thanks for your compliments. I noticed your views on being a Jain and a Hindu. Lemme compliment you on your independence and candour - only becoz I believe that the search for God should completely exclude issues of personal and community identity, politics and nationalism in any form. Distinctions between religions do not serve our hope of finding God. Its about God, not us. Enjoy! Rama's Arrow 03:50, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Another Esperanzial note...
Hi again Esperanzians! Well, since our last frolic in the realms of news, the Advisory Council has met twice more (see WP:ESP/ACM2 and WP:ESP/ACM3). As a result, the charter has been ammended twice (see here for details) and all of the shortcuts have been standardised (see the summary for more details). Also of note is the Valentines ball that will take place in the Esperanza IRC channel on the 14th of February (tomorrow). It will start at 6pm UTC and go on until everyone's had enough! I hope to see you all there! Also, the spamlist has been dissolved - all Esperanzians will now recieve this update "newsletter".
The other major notice I need to tell you about is the upcoming Esperanza Advisory Council Elections. These will take place from 12:00 UTC on February 20th to 11:59 UTC on February 27th. The official handing-over will take place the following day. Candidates are able to volunteer any time before the 20th, so long as they are already listed on the members list. Anyone currently listed on the memberlist can vote. In a change since last time, if you have already been a member of the leadership, you may run again. Due to the neutrality precident, I will not vote for anyone.
Yours, as ever, Esperanzially,
--Celestianpower háblame 09:00, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
(message delivered by FireFox using AWB on Celestianpower's behalf)
[edit] ArbCom
You light the fire. I'll be by in the morning with more wood and some lighter fluid! Believe you me, I am none too pleased with what happened with the group userbox. Goodnight! ---CJ Marsicano 01:40 21 February 2006 (UTC)
- OK, See you at lunch tomorrow. My bed awaits. --CJ Marsicano 05:45, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
- I believe the new entries at WP:Arb should be on top. Also, it is good if you use an edit summary, it greatly helps understand what you are up to. Thanks. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 06:30, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion/2006 February 21
I put Image:Uduiw.jpg up for deletion following the DRV on User:Cjmarsicano/UDUIW: I'm actually voting undelete on Cjmarsicano's userbox, but the image has vote-stacking uses I object to. --- Charles Stewart(talk) 20:10, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Jimbo Wales
Hi there. Thanks for putting my comments back up, but i took them back down. As you'll see if you go to my talk page, and then JDoorjam's, it's not that great an idea to make that sort of comment to 'Good old' Jimbo, especially with all his admin lap dogs around. I still believe in freespeech on wiki, and the continuation of userboxes, but i'd rather fight for them on the site. Once again, thanks for putting the comments back up (and that isn't sarcastic like putting good old jimbo is).
The Halo Talk 23:59 21 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] MySpace
You seem to be confusing several issues here. It's fine, within the limits set by policies such as WP:NOT, to include personal opinions on one's user page. However, creating a massive amount of pages in the official template namespace is not a good idea, for several reasons. First, templates exist for encyclopedic activities. Second, templatized userboxes actually discourage individuality and have been used to create a culture of polemical strife and divisiveness which is not good for the project as a whole. Those are what you may think of as the "official" reasons. In addition, and that may be just my own opinion, userboxes don't really say all that much about people. By looking at your user page I can tell, for example, that you like programming and cooking, but that's all, no further explanation. In the same space taken up by the userboxes, you could have explained what cuisine you prefer, how you got into programming, or if you see, as some people do, any connection between programming and cooking (both are creative activities that follow strict rules and procedures). Just like the section where you explain the Hindu/Jain classification, you could have other sections that could essentially say the same things as the boxes, but in a more detailed and personal way. There's nothing wrong with that, and there are plenty of examples of personalized user pages with few or no boxes. Jimbo's page is one example. One of my favorites is Ashley Pomeroy's user page. Cheers, --MarkSweep (call me collect) 00:36, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
Yes, Wikipedia is not MySpace. That's not just Jimbo's renegade opinion, it follows from WP:NOT, which is one of the core policies of Wikipedia. But: You can still have a fair amount of personal opinions, individual self-expression, Wikipedia-related essays and humor, etc. in your user space. Many people do, including Jimbo himself. It's just those templates and categories that are crossing over into the official project space which are discouraged. --MarkSweep (call me collect) 01:26, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
I was and am listening to you. You still seem to think it's an all-or-nothing proposition: either go all the way to becoming yet another social networking site, or delete all user content. That's not the case. User pages and individual content can have plenty of project-related uses. Lots of people have pictures on their user pages. There's even a Wikipedia:Facebook. People have posted Wikipedia-related essays, see Sjakkalle's page. There's nothing wrong with that at all (in moderation, subject to the usual rules, etc.). What's at stake is how project resources get used. If someone uploads their portrait, that's informative and project-related, as there are occasional face-to-face meetings, conferences, etc. If someone uploads a picture that's entirely unrelated to the project and which rubs people the wrong way, it will likely be deleted. It's a question of using common sense. --MarkSweep (call me collect) 01:44, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
Actually if you check the history of MarkSweep (call me collect) 02:00, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
and the image description pages of the pictures there, you'll find that all of them were contributed by other people. --Why are you so concerned with Jimbo's personal pages? Lots of people have similar pages. Many people post their Wikipedia-related profiles, explaining what defines them as Wikipedians, how they got involved with Wikipedia, their first edit, etc. There's nothing unusual about it. If you look at Wikipedia:user page, you'll see examples of what sort of content is encouraged on user pages. For another concrete example, check out Essjay's user page. --MarkSweep (call me collect) 02:15, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
Jimbo isn't really calling for any changes. There is no new philosophy here. The basic principles have long been established – see Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not – and remain unchanged. What has to change is the continuing violationg of these fundamental policies. It's the polemical messages that have to stop, since they are seriously ticking people off. Jimbo hasn't posted any polemical messages and has asked people to stop voluntarily. --MarkSweep (call me collect) 02:26, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
I'm just trying to explain to you how Wikipedia works. I saw a confused post on Jimbo's talk page, and I tried to help out. Feel free to ask if you have further questions. --MarkSweep (call me collect) 03:38, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Leaving Wikipedia
I'm sorry you feel this way. Your contributions will certainly be missed. If you ever consider returning to the project, you will always be welcome. --TantalumTelluride 06:05, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
Sorry to see that you're leaving, especially because of the fact that those admins won't allow us our userboxes. I hope that someday you'll return to wikipedia. The Halo (talk)
Your leaving means they win and you lose. Do you really want that? I'm gonna stick around and fight. If we retreated in World War II we'd be speaking German and incinerating Jews (if there were any left to incinerate.) Fight the good fight! Battle lost? Maybe. War lost? Not if I can fucking help it. --CJ Marsicano 15:52, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
- If we retreated in World War II, well, the Nazis would've pwned part of Europe, but if we had also held our ground afterwards, then - no- we wouldn't be speaking German (although the French might've been). Would Jews have been incinerated in N. America? dunno - countries near Nazi territory had been known to do antisemitic stuff to please Germany. 204.52.215.107 03:25, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
- You had me until you started using "l33t" language with your 11th word in. You're disqualified. --Cjmarsicano 06:36, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] you haven't left
you have still been fighting. I've seen your votes. Might I suggest rewording your user page like mine to define our goals? Coolgamer 00:08, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Charter
Attention Esperanza Members: Subject to 1:3:3§ of the Charter, I am hereby informing you of the request to increase the size of the Advisory Council. I am now required to ask if you wish to take part in the refferal from the Convention Page to the main talk page. I am must have a general consensus for the refferal. Thank You!
[edit] Welcome back!
I'm glad to see you back. Cheers! --Fang Aili 23:35, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #2
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[edit] June Meetup in New York
Hi, I noticed you are characterized as a New Yorker so perhaps you might be in the NYC area in June. If you are interested we are having a meetup for Wikipedians in June in NYC. Take a peek at this and please tell any other Wikipedians that you think might be interested in participating about this event. Thanks. Alex756 02:25, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Old Skool Esperanzial note
Since this isn't the result of an AC meeting, I have decided to go Old Skool. This note is to remind you that the elections are taking place now and will end at 23:50 UTC on 2006-04-29. Please vote here. Thanks. --Celestianpower háblame 20:42, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #3
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User hindu NP, This protection will not be permanant, but is meant to quell any edit warring over it's categories. It would be wise to bring up the topic of it's categories on it's talk page soon. — xaosflux Talk 14:25, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] leaving?
Leaving? or just stressed? Is there anything I can do? --Fang Aili 說嗎? 02:48, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
- Please reconsider leaving wikipedia. Anonymous_anonymous_Have a Nice Day_Crusher of Hopes and Dreams 08:22, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] May userbox policy poll
Hi. You're a supporter of userboxes, and there's currently a policy poll going on about userboxes that might solve the speedy deletion issue. I encourage you to vote if you haven't already. Thank you. Dtm142 21:18, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
Just so you know, for a policy to pass, you need about a 70% consensus. WP:NOT a majority-wins democracy. The Gerg 01:56, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Hi
I read on the Esperanza page that you were considering leaving. I believe it is due to edit wars, etc. I do hope you'll reconsider this, and stay. I used to have trouble with edit wars too. However, if most of the stuff you write should stay on Wikipedia. Also, I always see if there was a point in the other person's changes, and that he may be correct and me wrong. And always remember that you can't win them all.Wallie 15:35, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] A short Esperanzial update
As you may have gathered, discussions have been raging for about a week on the Esperanza talk page as to the future direction of Esperanza. Some of these are still ongoing and warrant more input (such as the idea to scrap the members list altogether). However, some decisions have been made and the charter has hence been amended. See what happened. Basically, the whole leadership has had a reshuffle, so please review the new, improved charter.
As a result, we are electing 4 people this month. They will replace JoanneB and Pschemp and form a new tranche A, serving until December. Elections will begin on 2006-07-02 and last until 2006-07-09. If you wish to run for a Council position, add your name to the list before 2006-07-02. For more details, see Wikipedia:Esperanza/June 2006 elections.
Thanks and kind, Esperanzial regards, —Celestianpower háblame 16:00, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] August Esperanza Newsletter
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[edit] Birthday!
I see that it is your birthday today! Happy birthday, and enjoy the chicken! Happy feasting. — [Mac Davis] (talk) (Desk|Help me improve)
I know it's a little late, but hope you had a great day!! -- Underneath-it-All 00:25, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] September Esperanza Newsletter
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[edit] CfD UDUIW
You might be interested in the discussion at Wikipedia:User_categories_for_discussion#Category:Users_in_Defense_of_Userboxes_and_Individuality_on_Wikipedia_.28UDUIW.29. --NThurston 20:51, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Great work on the plastics chemical structure drawings
This is just to thank you for your chemical structure drawings you added to the plastics article. Certainly an improvement and much appreciated. CoolMike 06:28, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Image:Chaiyyachaiyya.jpg
Hello, DotShell. An automated process has found and removed an image or media file tagged as nonfree media, and thus is being used under fair use that was in your userspace. The image (Image:Chaiyyachaiyya.jpg) was found at the following location: User:DotShell/IMG. This image or media was attempted to be removed per criterion number 9 of our non-free content policy. The image or media was replaced with Image:NonFreeImageRemoved.svg , so your formatting of your userpage should be fine. Please find a free image or media to replace it with, and or remove the image from your userspace. User:Gnome (Bot)-talk 20:12, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Image:Dilsecover.jpg
Hello, DotShell. An automated process has found and removed an image or media file tagged as nonfree media, and thus is being used under fair use that was in your userspace. The image (Image:Dilsecover.jpg) was found at the following location: User:DotShell/IMG. This image or media was attempted to be removed per criterion number 9 of our non-free content policy. The image or media was replaced with Image:NonFreeImageRemoved.svg , so your formatting of your userpage should be fine. Please find a free image or media to replace it with, and or remove the image from your userspace. User:Gnome (Bot)-talk 00:34, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] WikiProject Films coordinator elections
The WikiProject Films coordinator selection process is starting. We are aiming to elect five coordinators to serve for the next six months; if you are interested in running, please sign up here by March 28! Girolamo Savonarola (talk) 09:59, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Aarti
Don't add the lyrics. There are multiple types of aartis depending on which god it is for.--Juthani1 (talk) 21:23, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Speedy deletion of Swad
A tag has been placed on Swad requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a company or corporation, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for companies and corporations.
If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}}
to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the article does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that a copy be emailed to you. – Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 02:37, 11 June 2008 (UTC)