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[edit] Miniature Flags

Hello. Its come to my attention that you oppose the deletion of the flags placed next to many names of military figures. I have noticed that it is you who has put this flags in and believe that you are becoming emotional about there deletion. You seem to be the sole donater to these pages and i ask you to let others have a go and let them improve wikipedia. (Electrobe 13:57, 1 December 2007 (UTC))

I am honoured that you feel that I am the sole donator to these pages...to be fair others have contributed as well and I would like there to be a proper discussion Dormskirk 20:13, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
I believe this will satisfy that aspect of the issue:- Flag Icon Discussion. Hopefully Electrobe will now revert his changes to the articles he deleted the images from? I have already reverted the ones to the Richard Dannatt and Peter Inge, Baron Inge articles, which are on my watchlist. Richard Harvey 02:14, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
I also hope he will. I think there is a clear consensus that the alliegance and service / branch flags should stay even if some people do not like the ones for places of birth & death. Thanks for your help and support Dormskirk 12:35, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Al Alam Palace

Hello. I noticed you recently removed an unreferenced tag I placed on Al Alam Palace. I believe this was unnecessary, since the articles does not properly cite its references, as requested in WP:CITE. Please do not remove tags without solving the problem, since this is considered vandalism. Yours truly, BoricuaeddieTalk • Contribs • Spread the love! 18:55, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

I have now inserted a reference. Two people (including yourself) have now threatened to delete this harmless article for one reason or another. Will you now remove the tag? Dormskirk 21:28, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Hello. This is a reply to your comment above. Thank you for inserting a reference. You may now remove the tag. However, I noticed you also removed the stub tag. I believe it is should still be classified as a stub, according to Wikipedia:Stubs. If you can find proof in the provided link that it is, in fact, not a stub, I will happily remove the stub tag. Yours truly, BoricuaeddieTalk • Contribs • Spread the love! 22:54, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
Hello. I'm sorry if my actions caused you any trouble, but I don't remember requesting that the article be deleted. I may be a member of the Association of Wikipedians Who Dislike Making Broad Judgements About the Worthiness of a General Category of Article, and Who Are in Favor of the Deletion of Some Particularly Bad Articles, but That Doesn't Mean They Are Deletionist, but I know a good article with great potential when I see it. Please continue your excellent editing work. Yours truly, BoricuaeddieTalk • Contribs • Spread the love! 23:41, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] WP:FLAGCRUFT

Please have a look at this page before putting flags in infoboxes, thanks. --Barryob Vigeur de dessus 17:42, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

OK. Noted. Thanks. Dormskirk 18:00, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Henry Seymour Conway

Please check the date of his entrance to the military, which you've accidentally inserted as the anachronistic 1937. Choess 22:33, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing this error out: I have checked with Heathcote and the date should be 1737 Dormskirk 22:14, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Erhard Milch

Thanks for the good work on the infobox for Milch. I'm not sure how to manage this, but I'm troubled that the fact that Milch was a convicted war criminal is somehow slipping away in this article. You'd never know about it unless you read to the bitter end. Do you think the "laterwork" section of the infobox might be used to indicate this?Easchiff 02:11, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestion: I will insert something Dormskirk 21:51, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. The addition to the infobox seems fair to me.Easchiff 02:17, 26 October 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Leighton Holdings

A tag has been placed on Leighton Holdings requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a company or corporation, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not assert the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for companies and corporations.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the article (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the article's talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines.   jj137 (Talk) 22:53, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

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If you read the CSD box, you will see: It is an article about a company or corporation that does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject. That is the reason I gave it. Simply, it does not assert the significance it has to get its own article. It does not matter whether it is the only major construction company in the world that doesn't have an article or not.   jj137 (Talk) 23:13, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Ok. If I say it is notable because it is Australia's largest contractor (which is true) would that meet your point? Dormskirk (talk) 23:17, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
Sounds good to me. If I were you, I would go ahead and cite that on the article so it doesn't get deleted.   jj137 (Talk) 23:19, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. I have now stated this in the first line. Please could you now remove the request for speedy deletion? Dormskirk (talk) 23:24, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
Y Done. I also marked it with a stub tag, by the way.   jj137 (Talk) 23:25, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Flag icons in infoboxes

Hello, Dormkirk. I have opened a discussion on this topic at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Military_history#Flag_icons. Please feel free to add your thoughts there. Best wishes, Kablammo 13:58, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

thanks for this useful initiative. I have added my comments Dormskirk 15:56, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Dormskirk: Congratulations to both you and Electrobe for your willingness to discuss, collaborate, and compromise on this question. Regards, Kablammo 16:59, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

no problem Dormskirk 17:36, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thai Leighton

Thanks for putting a reference in the Thai_Leighton article, unfortunately the reference cites a claim from the corporate website of the parent company. Although I have no problem, I think some editiors here would have the "wobbles" with a corporate reference. A good example where this is the case is the Voith article. I suggest you find an independent reference and use that. Using independent references reduces the likelyhood of another editor disputing your edit. Regards Surfing bird (talk) 03:42, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately I do not know enough about the company to find an independent reference - I would suggest a corporate reference is better than a completely unsourced comment as existed previously Dormskirk 23:52, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Notability of William Cooper (accountant)

A tag has been placed on William Cooper (accountant) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article appears to be about a person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable. If this is the first page that you have created, then you should read the guide to writing your first article.

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For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Kannie | talk 22:17, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

This page is about the founder of PriceWaterhouseCoopers and must be the most famous accountant in the world. Have you any suggestions how I should establish his notability more clearly? Dormskirk (talk) 22:21, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
Is there any non-wiki article that describes why he is famous? Is there any books or articles he has published, but not self-published? Put a hang on tag on the page, explain that he is, indeed, notable, and why he is notableand put the above in a reference section. That way, the article may or may not be deleted. --Kannie | talk 22:23, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
he is notable because he founded the world's largest firm of accountants - I will make that clear if it is not already clear Dormskirk (talk) 22:42, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Old Boy Categories

Why are you moving categories into See also? This is unhelpful and totally exceptional. Categories belong with categories - if you want to create new pages for old boys please do so. Regards Motmit (talk) 19:40, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

I am not sure what you mean...please can you explain. My objective was simply to ensure that readers of articles about individual schools become aware that there is a category of old boys from that school. Dormskirk (talk) 19:46, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
Sorry - I realise you are creating new category links rather than moving existing ones which is obviously a good thing - but I would still expect to look for categories in the category list rather than linked mid article. Some schools have specific lists of old boys as separate pages which is what I meant by creating additional pages, but this is rather overkill for most schools. Regards Motmit (talk) 19:53, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
no problem - I now see your point. But the trouble with putting Category:Old Felstedians into the category list for Felsted College is that Felsted College will itself appear as an old boy in the Category:Old Felstedians Dormskirk (talk) 19:57, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
I don't think thats a problem - it seems to happen with most cats. I dont know what Wiki policy is (nor do I worry much) but I think there is a bit of a down on "S a"s - but up to you really (its easier to stick just the cat in). RegardsMotmit (talk) 20:04, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
Fine. I don't have strong views either...I am happy to go with your format Dormskirk (talk) 20:07, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Oh dear - I seem to be having another go. You have added the FT 30 template back to Bass. This just links in 30 articles that may be interesting in FT30 terms, but have absolutely no relevence whatsoever for Bass. I did add a specific link from Bass to the FT30 article where the links can be followed. As I make much use of "related changes", templates like this reduce the usefulness and raise the question "What is the value of the link". Not objecting in principle - a template of 30 Burton breweries might be useful. Sorry and regards Motmit (talk) 15:04, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Again I do not have strong views. I am content for you to remove the template from the Bass article if you would prefer Dormskirk (talk) 15:29, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Pinchin Johnson & Associates

of course, it just didnt look the notable when i first saw it. ninety:one 23:17, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] PricewaterhouseCoopers

Hi, I saw that you deleted twice the name of Paul Bernardo from the list of notable workers or former workers of Pricewaterhouse. You explained it as vandalism... but Paul Bernardo, famous canadian criminal, was an employee of Pricewaterhouse, so I just can't see where's the problem. Everybody can add in the articles a piece of what he knows about the subject, so why not put this name? it's not a statement about the firm, it is a FACT, so according to Wikipedia's policy it is hard to erase my entry as it is genuine and proved...

Thanks

Joe Dietrich —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.46.228.75 (talk) 16:54, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

I accept that this is a fact. But I consider that this fact is not relevent to an understanding of the firm's business. Dormskirk (talk) 17:10, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] EY

Absolutely no problem, if it migrates to other pages as a result, just drop me a note, or leave one at WP:RFPP if I'm inactive. It was a flagrant breach of WP:BLP which cannot be tolerated. Thanks for bringing it to people's attention. Regards. Woody (talk) 22:13, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Content that was sourced

Hi, this a friendly note to let you know that when you removed content ("remove unsourced statement"), the statement was in fact sourced by the link, near the end of the article, to the Health and Safety Executive website. I restored the statement, but made the source more obvious by using an inline citation. Thanks, - Neparis (talk) 23:48, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

OK. I agree this is properly sourced now. Thanks for letting me know Dormskirk (talk) 18:59, 13 April 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Thanks!

Thanks for the barnstar, much appreciated. Gr1st (talk) 20:49, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Trenchard

Thanks the barnstar. As you noticed I've been working on the Hugh Trenchard, 1st Viscount Trenchard article as and when I get chance. I am hopeing to get it up to featured article quality but it needs more work. If you want to lend and hand at any stage, then that would be great. Greenshed (talk) 23:25, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

OK. Many thanks for the offer - But I am not convinced that I am as much of an expert on his life as you clearly are! Dormskirk (talk) 20:38, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Move to 888 Holdings

FYI, the move you did to 888 Holdings caused more harm than good. I almost needed to delete the original article to get the redirect out of the history!

Long story short, I completely deleted 888 Holdings, since nothing was there but redirects. I then had to undo the redirect you had created at the old title, restore the changes you made at 888 Holdings, and then revert to the last good version.

It would have been easier to not have done the copy-and-paste move and waited for an admin to delete 888 Holdings and then do a proper move - which would have required no page history merging. —C.Fred (talk) 23:54, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

OK. Noted. But many thanks for your help anyway. Dormskirk (talk) 21:24, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

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