Template talk:Doppelganger
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Many users have been impersonated by imposters such as the "Doppelganger" vandal. The vandals use various tricks to create an account name which appears idential to the impersonated user's account name. Often, this takes the form of replacing capital "I's" with lowercase "L's" and visa versa.
As a result, many users are creating "Doppelganger" accounts to prevent their "real" account being impersonated in the future. This template is for these "Doppelganger" accounts, created by legitimate users to avoid being impersonated by vandals. See Doppelganger
In order to use this template, insert the template text on your "Doppelganger" account's user page & talk page. The tag is {{DoppeIganger|Your user name}} where "your user name" is replaced by inserting your "real" account user name. It will appear in place of the {{{1}}} text so that administrators and other users will be able to contact the "real" user.
It is suggested you place the template from your "real" account, rather than the "Doppelganger" account, so the "real" account will show up in the page history. This will help to prevent vandals from using the template to "validate" imposter accounts.
Please do not use this template on the page of a user believed to be an imposter. Use Template:Impostor Template:Indefblockeduser (the previous was, in fact, deprecated ~user:orngjce223how am I typing? 23:53, 3 January 2007 (UTC)) instead.
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[edit] PAGENAMEE
Is there a reason this template uses {{PAGENAMEE}} rather than {{PAGENAME}} for the displayed text? I ask because it unicodes the false username Nae'bIis as Nae%27bIis. I don't want to change this behavior if it's included for a good reason, though.
Also, this template seems like a prime candidate for high-risk protection. -- nae'blis (talk) 15:01, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Image
Hey, there has been controversy about which image the template should have (The stop hand or the other image). Is there conseus on this, or is it an admin edit war over the images? Astrale01talkcontribs 20:06, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Contested move request
The following request to move a page has been added to Wikipedia:Requested moves as an uncontroversial move, but this has been contested by one or more people. Any discussion on the issue should continue here. If a full request is not lodged within five days of this request being contested, the request will be removed from WP:RM. —Stemonitis 06:34, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
- Template:Doppelganger → Template:Doppelgänger — This is the correct spelling of the word, see doppelgänger and [1]. Please also move Template:Doppelganger-other once this has been performed. —Melsaran 21:14, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
- This is hardly essential for a template, and in any case, "a" is easier to type than "ä" on a standard keyboard. PC78 00:23, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
- According to dictionary.com, without the umlaut is acceptable in english. 132.205.44.5 20:10, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
Also compare {{BadenWurttemberg-geo-stub}} and so on. It is standard practice to remove accents from template titles for ease of typing. --Stemonitis 06:34, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
- I do not support the move. There is no need to be über correct in a non-mainspace matter. It is also difficult to type unless you go to the character map and use alt codes. i said 07:53, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
- You can (at least in Linux) set-up a dead key to make accented characters easier (I use the right windows key). Thryduulf 23:11, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
- Neither is there a need to be "less correct". And it doesn't matter that umlauts are difficult to type on your keyboard, because {{doppelganger}} will still be a redirect. Melsaran (talk) 00:04, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
- oppose for lack of benefit. If you are bothered by the lack of a template:Dopplegänger then I don't suppose a redirect would do any harm. Thryduulf 23:11, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
OpposeNeutral per below Most American Keyboard users cannot type an umlaut, unless they use the character map, which would be a pain. Nor should it be expected that users on English Wikipedia create special keymaps or mousekey maps for non-English characters. This is not mainspace, and the meaning of the word is not changed at all by the addition of the umlaut. If you are bothered by there not being a page for this with the umlaut, might I suggest you create the page, and simply re-direct it to this one? :) Ariel♥Gold 23:21, 15 August 2007 (UTC)- On a normal Western keyboard, an umlaut is made by pressing " and then the vowel (as far as I know). Still, if American keyboard users cannot type an umlaut, what does that matter? Template:Doppelganger will still be a redirect. Melsaran (talk) 00:00, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
- Because it would be an unneccesary move, because most people would still use it without the umlaut. And what about pressing the " and a vowel? Because I have never heard of it before. i said —The preceding signed but undated comment was added at 00:08, August 26, 2007 (UTC).
- Well, I use a US-International keyboard, which is fairly common. That shouldn't matter, though; if you prefer typing it without an umlaut, then the redirect still works. If we move it, the page title is correct, and people who cannot type an umlaut can still access the template, so why not? Melsaran (talk) 12:46, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
- I definitely don't use a US-International keyboard, lol, and that shortcut you said certainly does not work with my keyboard, pressing " and then the vowel, produces this: "e. However, if the original name (this page) were to remain as a redirect, (which I didn't see any mention of when I initially opposed, perhaps it was assumed, but I didn't assume it) then I guess I don't really have a problem with it. I see both sides, so I'll go ahead and just change to "neutral", and whatever is decided is fine with me. Ariel♥Gold 13:02, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
- Well, I use a US-International keyboard, which is fairly common. That shouldn't matter, though; if you prefer typing it without an umlaut, then the redirect still works. If we move it, the page title is correct, and people who cannot type an umlaut can still access the template, so why not? Melsaran (talk) 12:46, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
- Because it would be an unneccesary move, because most people would still use it without the umlaut. And what about pressing the " and a vowel? Because I have never heard of it before. i said —The preceding signed but undated comment was added at 00:08, August 26, 2007 (UTC).
- On a normal Western keyboard, an umlaut is made by pressing " and then the vowel (as far as I know). Still, if American keyboard users cannot type an umlaut, what does that matter? Template:Doppelganger will still be a redirect. Melsaran (talk) 00:00, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
- Oppose per WP:UE - it's a special character that should be avoided; and, of course a selfish reason: that this is a maintenance template-- used primarily by administrators and people skilled with the english wikipedia. It's rarely, if ever, used by the general public, and the only invocations of it are with the "ganger" spelling. On the german wikipedia, it might make sense to move it; otherwise, I'd suggest simply redirecting the correct spelling here for the overwhelming minority of users who would type "Template:Doppelg(the weird a)nger" in the search box or go directly to the URL with the HTML-entities-encoded version in their browser's navbox. --slakr\ talk / 08:40, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Category for template page
Whenever someone gets a chance, please add Category:Sockpuppet templates to the template page (but not the template itself), since this is a sock-related template (like {{User Alternate Acc}}). Cheers =) --slakr\ talk / 08:19, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
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- I just changed the cats to populate Cat:Alternate Wikipedia account templates instead of Cat:sockpuppet templates; I know the template is protected, so if anyone objects, just say so and I'll revert the change. For some reason three instances of the template are showing through, notwithstanding the noincludes, if anyone knows why, let me know and I'll fix it.--Doug.(talk • contribs) 21:00, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Error in talk page link
{{Edit protected}}
The current version of this template has the following code:
This account … is … created by … an established user … Please see their '''[[{{TALKPAGENAME}}|talk page]]''' for any relevant discussion.
The variable {{TALKPAGENAME}} does not provide a link to the established user's talk page, as the text implies, but rather to the talk page of the doppelganger, which in many cases will be non-existent and unmonitored precisely because it is a doppelganger and not an active user. Please fix this so the variable matches the text implication, like so:
Please see their '''[[User talk:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}|talk page]]''' for any relevant discussion.
Of course, one can work around this by making the doppelganger's talk page a redirect to the real user, but erroneous coding with easy fixes should be fixed whenever possible, since most people learn wiki principles by observing others' work. Thank you. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 16:06, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
Done. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 14:01, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Protection
Do we really need indefinite full protection on this page? Why? There are a lot of templates of equal or greater importance that are not protected at all.--Doug.(talk • contribs) 21:10, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
