Wikipedia talk:Don't object to proposals

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Objecting to this essay is strongly discouraged, per WP:DOTPGurch 22:36, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Objection, Your Honor... *Dan T.* 00:36, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
I'll see what everyone else says first then support or oppose this essay, I can't be bothered with actually reading this. :-D daveh4h 06:10, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I'm sorry, but I have to make a fictional scenario, it's what I do to proposals

What would happen if this was followed at the founding of VfD?


I think that there should be a process to discuss if pages should be deleted. So, we have a discussion page, with support and oppose section, and whichever side gets a majority happens. -User:onoesiissmart 00:52, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Agreed. User:Agreementwithu1 00:52, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Agreed. User:Agreementwithu2 00:52, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Agreed. User:Agreementwithu3 00:52, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Agreed. User:Agreementwithu4 00:52, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Agreed. User:Agreementwithu5 00:52, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Um... this is a terrible idea. A strict vote-counting system is too easily gameable, and even if it weren't, 51% is a terrible standard for deletion. I agree with the sentiment of discussing deletions, but this is not the way to do it. -User:Iactuallyevaluatemorethanbroadsubstance 00:52, 29 May 2007 (UTC) (struck out, I realize that this violates WP:DOTP)

Yaaaaay. -Amarkov moo! 00:52, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

If I'm reading this right, it's not 'don't object to any proposals', it's 'don't object to proposals you agree with in spirit.' It's kind of misleading and needs a rewrite though. Night Gyr (talk/Oy) 08:10, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

It's neither of those. It's "don't object to proposals that have a significant level of support" – it explicitly says so just before the bold text. In this case, being an obviously bad proposal with no support none of this would apply. Being first to comment on a proposal is something else that should be avoided, but I won't go into that further :) – Gurch 22:36, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
But it isn't an obviously bad proposal. We elect the government this way, so it's not obvious that this is a bad idea. -Amarkov moo! 22:38, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Then, if I think this is an obviously bad proposal, I should.... support it, right? Or does it say I should oppose it? Yeah, I think so... but should I then do the opposite of what it says, if I think it's a bad proposal, so then I should support it... or what? *Dan T.* 22:45, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

No, you should say nothing, and ignore it, and quietly follow any new policies/guidelines that may result. You won't get at say in how things are run, but at least you won't earn the dislike of the proposal's supporters – Gurch 10:11, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

This is certainly good advice for those who wish to become or remain popular. It should be handed out to all those young people who wish one day to become admins. Well done! Grace Note 04:19, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Yep. The path to adminship now seems to be holding no opinions. -Amarkov moo! 04:22, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] What a ludicrous page

It flies straight in the face of consensus building. >Radiant< 13:57, 20 August 2007 (UTC)