Talk:Donna Eden
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[edit] Quality of Sources
The quality of the sources of this page has been questioned. I need more specifics to make improvement, because here is how I see it.
Source 1. Amazon.com: 3rd party and reliable. Source 2. Alternative Therapies in Health and Medicine 2008: 3rd party and tautologically reliable for the claim. By "tautologically reliable" I mean to say that if the claim is that an article was published in journal X, then the fact that it was published is proof of the claim. No claim is being made the relies on the reputation of that journal. In addition, a Google search of Alternative Therapies in Health and Medicine returns 29,000 hits. This also happens to be a reliable source as such. Source 3. Energy Medicine University: 3rd party and again tautologically reliable for the claim. A Google search of Energy Medicine University returns 2,350 hits. This is a well known institution in the field. Source 4. Energy Kinesiology Association: 3rd party and tautologically reliable. OK ... only 338 hits for "Energy Kinesiology Association", so this is more obscure if used as general support for Donna Eden's notability.
Now we get into the sources that are being used to back up more subjective claims. The worthiness of these sources depends on the reliability of the source itself.
Source 5. Kripalu: 3rd party. 226,000 Google hits. Has a Wiki page. Well known alternative center in the field. If this is not reliable in the field, then someone is going to have to explain that to me. Or do we simply need more sources? Source 6. Amazon editorial review: 3rd party and reliable organization. Is it that we just need more? Source 7. Handbook of Humanistic Psychology: 3rd party and 9,000 Google hits, but even here we are supporting the now watered down "claims to have the ability" statement which, really, isn't making a very strong statement. I understand that to support the statement "she HAS the ability" starts a whole new ball game.
Thank for any clarifications you can provide. I'm new at Wiki and it is difficult to distinguish between my lack of Wiki experience and, well, other factors.--Mbilitatu (talk) 22:23, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Strange Claims
The first paragraph has the statement:
Since childhood, Eden has been able to see the flow of the body's energies, and from this clairvoyant ability, she developed a system for teaching others to productively work with their body's energies
I realize that, while it may be valid within the context of Alternative Medicine to talk about "body's energies" and "clairvoyant ability", its silly for this article to treat these concepts as established fact. Perhaps it would be better to say something like:
Eden believes that humans maintain body energies (and then explain this--I don't know what it is supposed to be). She claims that, since childhood, she has been able to perceive its flow in people. From this idea, she developed an alternative theory of medicine, called Energy Medicine.
or something like that.
What do you think?Andrei r (talk) 16:42, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
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Well, anyway, I saw in the History that something more neutrally-worded used to exist, so I think I'm just going to add this snippet. I suggest someone with more knowledge than me about "Energy Medicine" spend some time trying to write a good Wikipedia article.
Andrei r (talk) 16:50, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
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I made a couple of changes in the Introduction to neturalize the text a little, but much more needs to be done here. Maybe somebody more interested in this topic than I am can take over. Andrei r (talk) 17:09, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
