Talk:Dong people
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[edit] Copyright
Khoikhoi inserted several paragraphs of copyrighted material from a "prayer site for the Dong people"[1], a subsidiary of the evangelical missionary-linguist organisation SIL International / Wycliffe Bible Translators. I've removed them. —Babelfisch 10:01, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
- I didn't insert them, actually. Check the history section. --Khoikhoi 00:54, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
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- I had misinterpreted the version history; it wasn't Khoikhoi, but 202.5.89.121, now registered as DongTeam. I'm sorry. —Babelfisch 02:26, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
Sorry for the problem folks. I did not yet understand Wikipedia and was trying to help out by adding some general information about the Dong. Having written that text for the DongTeam site, I simply copied it over, which I now understand it not acceptable. I look forward to helping add information to this site in the future that will be helpful for all. -- DongTeam 14:52, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
- It is ok if you release your text from your website under the GFDL. --Khoikhoi 00:54, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Affiliation of authors
I'm relatively new to Wikipedia, so sorry if I took out something I shouldn't have. However, I'm wondering why it is specified under the references that two authors of the first are SIL members. I've never seen an academic work do such a thing, and haven't seen it on other Wikipedia pages, but like I said, I'm relatively new. This seems like it would be more relevant to a page about either the author or the book--and even in the context of the book, probably only relevant if it introduces some significant bias. So I took that out.
I have read parts of the second book, and I can assure you that whatever the source of the funding, the book is not remotely religious in nature. It reads like a work by Chinese linguists, as in fact it is. AwesomeTruffle 23:09, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
- I have read both books and travelled to the area. It is relevant for the whole article that foreign missionaries are active among the Dong/Kaeml and that two of the sources given were produced by missionaries and/or their affiliates. Maybe there is another way of incorporating that information into the article. —Babelfisch 02:55, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
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- My thought is that this would be a better approach, or, as I mentioned before, to put it in a page about the books themselves. This article is currently very limited in scope and doesn't touch on religion or western attitudes towards the Dong, western influence on the Dong, Christian influence on the Dong, etc., at all. Also, as far as I can tell, nothing in the article relies on either of these two books. Although I haven't read the first one, I didn't learn anything about the culture from this page, leading me to believe the information here isn't taken from the first book. As to the second, it's clear from the fact that SIL published it that SIL is somehow associated with it. However, I guess I'd have to dig out my copy to check--I don't remember any indication in the publication information that it was funded by a church and am curious where this information comes from. 24.20.169.145 17:56, 17 November 2006 (UTC) Sorry! Wasn't signed in. AwesomeTruffle 17:57, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] New Assessment Criteria for Ethnic Groups articles
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- Has a reference section and one cite.
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[edit] npov
What's these "excellent" necklaces I hear of? Sort it out! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.222.215.13 (talk) 15:13, 6 November 2007 (UTC)