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[edit] Page move?

The single cover clearly says "Don't Stop Believing," with a "g." Mike H. I did "That's hot" first! 20:06, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Biased?

It appears that in the “Return to popularity” section is biased to the White Sox. I feel that this page should not focus on this one team because there are many other sports teams both pro and amateur that use this song for inspiration or a rally cry. Natural number is e 00:36, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

The song's use at the end of "The Sopranos" caused much discussion - probably more than its use during the White Sox World Series run. It's inclusion as the last song over the lase scene on the show represented an American pop culture event and should be noted.

I agree. it should be changed entirely. The song was used in Films and Tv shows (Especially Scrubs,which has a habit for playing music like this - see also Toto,Men At Work, and Boston) for years before it was used in sports. The artiocle should be altered to reflect this.Cm619 12:59, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Don't Stop Believing.jpg

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[edit] Believin' vs. Believing

It's odd that all references to the song here, including the title, show the third word in the song's title as "Believin'," but the cover of the 45 single in the photo in the sidebar lists the title as "Believing." This is a discrepancy that needs to be noted and explained in the article. Moncrief 15:58, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia tends to put the item under the article name of which it is most known as - not the name under which it was first published. Just because it was released as "Don't Stop Believing" doesn't mean it isn't much more commonly known as "Don't Stop Believin'", which is what the name of the article should be. Wikipedia titles items as the most common name, not the first: Meat Loaf, Elton John, etc (ie - not Marvin Lee Aday or Reginald Kenneth Dwight). We could easily write that it was first released as "Don't Stop Believing" in the article though. 86.158.196.226 (talk) 15:02, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Link

Here's a link to the blog of the Irish DJ who got the song to number 1 in the Irish download charts: http://rayfoleyshow.blogspot.com/2007_06_01_archive.html

[edit] Information About Song

This article really doesn't say anything about the song itself, just pop culture uses. 68.54.224.31 03:26, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Don't Stop Believing.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 06:07, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] south detriot

The last sentence of that section reads horribly.Beach drifter (talk) 07:18, 6 February 2008 (UTC) looks much better now!Beach drifter (talk) 07:19, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] trivia

[edit] Popular culture references

 Trivia sections are discouraged under Wikipedia guidelines.
The article could be improved by integrating relevant items and removing inappropriate ones.
  • In 2002, on the Soul Food episode "In Transition", the song plays on Teri's car radio as she puts the key in the ignition, minutes after she has been fired from her job as partner in a small Chicago law firm.
  • The song is also featured in a Scrubs episode from 2003 entitled "My Journey," in which J.D. reveals that he is "a closet Journey fan." and sings it with Turk. It is also used as non-diegetic (background) music during the closing sequence with J.D.'s narration featuring Elliot on a train.
  • In the 2003 motion picture Monster, featuring Charlize Theron, the song is played as a sort of love theme and also during the end credits.
  • On June 5, 2005, the Family Guy episode "Don't Make Me Over" first aired. In the episode, Peter Griffin and friends Quagmire, Joe, and Cleveland sing this song karaoke-style in a bid to attract attention to save their favorite bar, The Drunken Clam. The sound of the song attracts most people within hearing range, even luring a few mourners carrying a casket to drop it and run off to the bar ("Is that Journey? Kick ass!"). In the days following the Family Guy episode, an episode of Laguna Beach featured the song as well. As a result, "Don't Stop Believing" slowly crept up to the number 2 most downloaded song on iTunes.
  • During the 2005 Major League Baseball postseason, the Chicago White Sox adopted "Don't Stop Believing" as their unofficial theme song.
  • For their spring 2006 tour, Swedish band The Sounds played the song before they took the stage to get the audience hyped up.
  • In September 2007 SURFC (Stirling University Men's Rugby Club) adopted it as their theme for the 2007/2008 season, which brought much success both on and off the field.
  • The 2007 Nature's Classroom theme song for OHMS.
  • The Ray Foley Show on Today FM ran a campaign to get it to the top of the download charts and into the overall chart. They succeeded in both.
  • The song was played briefly in the 2007 Christmas television special Shrek The Halls. Shrek and Fiona are about to dance to the song, but Pinocchio cuts in to dance with Fiona and starts singing the words 'Don't Stop Believing'.

[edit] The Sopranos (and parodies)

  • In 2007, the song was played on a diner jukebox during the final scene of the series finale of The Sopranos.[1] The episode abruptly ends with "Don't stop—" as the scene cuts to black. By the end of the week, the song was one of most downloaded songs on iTunes, briefly holding the number 1 spot. [2]
  • A brief section of the song was played on a segment of The Daily Show on June 12th 2007, in a parody of the aforementioned The Sopranos finale.
  • Following a popular vote on her campaign website Hillary Clinton, in a parody of The Sopranos finale, used it in a Presidential campaign video to announce her official campaign anthem. [3], which featured Vince Curatola, the actor who portrayed Sopranos character John Sacramoni.
  • On July 12, 2007, WCBS FM in New York City used "Don't Stop Believing" as the final song under the station's Jack FM format before switching back to an oldies station. In a nod to The Sopranos finale, a short sound byte from Tony Soprano was put over the song, just before it was cut off at the "Don't stop" lyric, before the end of Sinatra's "Summer Wind" (the last song under the previous incarnation of its oldies format) was played to ring in the return of the oldies. It should also be noted that one of the first DJ breaks after the flip referenced the Hillary Clinton parody mentioned above.
  • At the 2007 WEBN fireworks show, the song was played in the soundtrack, which ended with the "Don't Stop-" ending that was in the finale. The fireworks stop for a second, and then cut to Woke Up This Morning, the Sopranos theme song.
  • In the final episode of the Australian radio show Get This, a program proudly obsessed with The Sopranos, the final few minutes were a parody of the final scenes of this episode. However, after the dramatic end, the hosts, Tony, Ed, and Richard messed it up by ruining the profound silence. Don't Stop Believing' was therefore the final song broadcast on the cult show. The band Journey were also favorite conversational fodder for the show.
  • In the 2007 premiere of the ABC Christmas special, Shrek the Halls, the song is played at the Christmas party at Shrek's swamp house.
  • ESPN did a parody of Sopranos and the Dallas Cowboys, with coach Tony Sparano and not Tony Soprano, then cut the song at "Don't Stop-" like the final seconds of The Sopranos finale.

[edit] A Thought

I've wondered if there is a place in the article for occurrences when the song has been incorrectly referred to by another name. I did not think it was here, so I reverted it. Qaddosh (talk) 20:07, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Popularity Section

What is the standard for notability of information in the 'Popularity' Section? A bit about a Rascal Flatts cover I don't agree with being listed, but in the spirit of WP:AGF, I will leave it be until someone perhaps more experienced than I comes along to look at it. -- Qaddosh|talk|contribs 06:10, 28 April 2008 (UTC)