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[edit] Location map

The map image:LocationDominica.png can be added to the new Dominica page when it is created in the format set out by WikiProject Countries. It is mentioned here so that whoever eventually makes the new page knows that the map already exists. - Vardion 09:19, 26 Oct 2003 (UTC)

PM will need to be changed to Roosevelt Skerrit as soon as he is approved?/installed?. Someone has already changed it on List of national leaders but it doesn't seem to be official quite yet. Rmhermen 21:48, Jan 7, 2004 (UTC)

The motto of the commonwealth of dominica is "After God is the Earth" liam.laurent@facinf.uho.edu.cu

[edit] Wikipedia:Caribbean Wikipedians' notice board

I would like to announce the establishment of the Wikipedia:Caribbean Wikipedians' notice board. Anyone with an interest in the Caribbean is welcome to join in. Guettarda 1 July 2005 03:58 (UTC)

[edit] Parishes

Consider merging Parishes of Dominica with Dominica. Rewster 06:15, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

Against. It just needs attention, but I don't know that much about Dominica. Caribbean wikipedia's are trickling in, one from Dominica will fix it any time now. CaribDigita 06:28, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

I've started to expand the articles on the individual parishes. See this page to check out what's happening. --Slgrandson 16:42, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Comment moved from main

Note from Dominican citizen: The name "Patwa" is considered derogatory by many proponents of the language; it is more correctly referred to as "Kwéyol". 204.188.166.199 — El_C 08:04, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Photos available (Comment moved from main article)

I have recently returned from a trip that included a day in Dominica. I have a few photos that might be appropriate for this article. They are availible at Yahoo Photo on my account, Veniceslug1. Feel free to contact me with any questions. I would post them myself but I do not know how. Previous unsigned comment was by User:Veniceslug1

[edit] Actually Dominica is 'French' Dominica because

Dominica is sometimes called 'French' Dominica because the Dominican Republic is considered as being 'Spanish' Dominica. To further confuse the world, both are actually republics but 'French' Dominica has named itself (Dominica, the Commonwealth of). Again to confuse the world. What would you call a national of the Dominican Republic? (Think about how it is spelled.) Now on the same mental canvas imagine what you would call someone from 'French' Dominica. Now- think about how they are both spelled. Voila. You have now enjoyed the complexities that both countries undergo. 141.157.162.160 22:50, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] To add links, which represent Dominica

Please, tell me, why do you think these sites is commercial and cannot to be added and represent Dominica: http://www.veselo.info/english/photo/caribbean/dominica/index.html - this page represent images of Dominica island, which i took when i was living here. And all site http://www.veselo.info is my stories about Dominica, but I just afraid it's not good english, but photography do not need english, right? Do you think is a bad quality photography?

http://www.dominica-weekly.com - Dominica News Blog. It's like two dominicans writting this blog now, and why is it commercial? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.81.208.34 (talk • contribs) 2006-08-01 20:46:02 UTC

When I redid much of the Dominica article ~ 1 year ago I had added many of the links currently there. The general consensus for the Caribbean geography articles is this, links which are good to add tend to be government ones, large media firms of that country, the (official) tourist board/authority and links which only-- focus on that country (rather then sites that just go from country-to-country) or onto several topics, or try to get people to buy a bunch of stuff. The problem that has been found especially with Caribbean countries is one person will post a link. Then someone who is competing with you says they want their site listed, then another person comes and posts a similar site and before you know it there's 40 links of sites that are trying to "sell" vacations, timeshares, obtain the bulkshare of the bookings to that country and so on, or even all kinds of other things about that country which is hardly encylopedic. If you have a link that you think doesn't constitute link spam do just what you're doing, bring it up on the talkpage. Ask others to review it and by all means, don't take anything personal. I have several websites that I do myself that I've opted not to place on the page because although they do seem rather encyclopedic, it would inspire competitors to post their "personal" sites too. Which is not what Wikipedia is about. CaribDigita 03:09, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

I support what CaribDigita says. One reason I removed your links is that you were linking the same site in other articles too. It is inappropriate to add your own site or attempt to promote any website on Wikipedia; please see Wikipedia:External links. This does not imply that your site has bad quality photography, only that it does not belong in Wikipedia unless a neutral editor adds it. Wmahan . 06:36, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] To last my post

Thank you for complete comments. I will keep it on mind. Continue your great work.

[edit] Dominica dive photos

Hi. I added a link to a dedicated page on Dominica's diving. It was removed and I wasn't sure why. I lived there for 2 years while studying medicine and I collected many dive photos from the North. Would someone else please review the page and list it if it is appropriate?

http://www.zphotos.org/divingphotos/dominica.html

ya, did u go to ross university? i just added ur pics to the "only in dominica" section. you can add those new links urself. it is just a matter of personal opinion as which links should be added or not.

Actually, no, it isn't just a matter of personal opinion. There are official guidelines, and possibly even policies, as to which links can be added. Generally, only those which can be seen to contribute in an objective, impartial way to the discussion of the subject of the article can be included. Badbilltucker 15:08, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed WikiProject

There is now a proposed WikiProject for the Caribbean area, including Dominica, at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#Caribbean. Interested parties should add their names there so we can determine if there is enough interest to start such a project in earnest. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 16:56, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Recent anonymous addition

Please only add encyclopedic and well referenced content to, this article. Don't use your own opinions (WP:POV). Thanks. Lycaon 09:44, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pronunciation

I saw the pronunciation explanation at the top and forgive me if I'm unable to use the phonetic alphabet. I just saw a documentary on the making of the second "Pirates of the Caribbean" movie. They did some location shots in Dominica. Everyone in the documentary pronounced the country's name as doh-mee-NEE-cah, yet I've heard others pronounce it as "doh-MEE-nee-kah".

Which is correct? What is used by the population of the country?

Thanks, --Eddylyons 20:19, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

It's doh-mi-NEE-cah, with more or less the vowels in "Roman pizza". In the IPA representation, the short vertical superscript mark precedes the syllable with the primary stress, and the subscript mark precedes the syllable with the secondary stress. —Largo Plazo 11:52, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] History

The history section tells a different story than History of Dominica. For example, here the article says "For the next hundred years Dominica remained isolated, and even more Caribs settled there after being driven from surrounding islands as European powers entered the region." Meaning the Caribs kept control over the island and the Europeans did not settle in it, while in the extended history article, it is said that English and French settlers did settle in the island during this period. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 132.72.45.187 (talk) 18:04, 20 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Carib Villages

By 1903, Edward VII was on the throne, so the special status of the villages cannot have been granted by "the British Queen". In any case, British monarchs don't rule, they reign.

The reservations were either devised by the Colonial Office or, more likely, the local Governor, Administrator or District Officer.

It would be interesting to read more on the history of the Carib people and the Nineteenth Century "black" government of the island, rather than Dominica's hum-drum life as yet another British colony, in the Twentieth Century.

[edit] Population

The census was 2001, not 2003.

Population was 69,625

In fact, the whole Demographics section is wildly inaccurate, how can it be changed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stevemc (talk • contribs) 22:11, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Intro paragraph

Is the following line really nessisary: 'It is distinct and separate from the Dominican Republic, another Caribbean nation.' I can understand mention in the article of confusion between the two nations and similarities of their names, but the second sentence seems a bit extream. The Not to be confused with the Dominican Republic. At the top of the article does enough to redirect confused users without the lead paragraph having to do it as well. Honestly I find it a little disrespectful to this nation to include mention an unrelated nation in the second sentence simply due to a similar name when just above that it was already pointed out. Russeasby 04:40, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Links

Removed searchdominica.com: it lists just 4 of over 80 accommodations. Stevemc (talk) 13:10, 28 November 2007 (UTC)SteveMc 28 November 2007

[edit] Impossibility

"This special Carib Territory was granted by the British Queen in 1903" - but that's impossible, as the Queen then was Queen Alexandra, who had no involvement. Did it happen under Edward VII, or earlier under Queen Victoria? P.M.Lawrence.

[edit] regional languages should we add them?

would it be alright to add Cariban and Antillian creole(Kwéyòl) as recognised regional languages because Dominica has a special carib territory and i assume the main language spoken there would be carib so technically it would be a regional language and also antillian creole (Kwéyòl) is spoken to large degrees in Dominica as well so wouldnt that be a recognised regional language i think we would be contributing to the article if we did add these to the information box. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gr8opinionater (talk • contribs) 17:46, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

If your "assuming" as you put it, that carib is spoken there, then it certainly should not be added. This is an encylopedia, we add things we know to be true, not assume to be true. I have been to the Carib territory in Dominica, they spoke english, whether or not they also speak Carib I cannot say for sure myself. Russeasby (talk) 18:12, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] tourism "underdeveloped"

Who's to say what's underdeveloped, overdeveloped or has just the amount of development?

Previously, the first sentence of the Tourism section stated, "Unlike many other Caribbean islands, Dominica's tourism is underdeveloped (65,000)." I changed it to read, "Compared to many other Caribbean islands, Dominica's tourism industry may be considered to be underdeveloped (65,000 visitors per year)."

The initial sentence was blatant opinion, especially for a place nicknamed the "Nature Isle of the Caribbean."

66.37.59.34 (talk) 21:42, 6 March 2008 (UTC) Brian E.

[edit] Condition of the boiling lake?

I added a link to a 2005 New York Times article (http://travel.nytimes.com/2005/02/06/travel/06dominica.html?scp=4&sq=dominica&st=nyt) that asserted that the boiling lake had diminished in volume and its ability to impress tourists/visitors. Does anyone know if the lake's condition is unchanged since the publication of that article?

Also, I question if this geographic feature (and discussion of its present condition) doesn't deserve at least a reference in the "Geography" subsection.

66.37.59.34 (talk) 22:27, 6 March 2008 (UTC) Brian E.

[edit] Add a Geology section?

OK, I see the condition of the boiling lake was removed without any explanation (I'd hope it isn't because something thinks it bad for tourism). If the condition reported in the NYT is no longer accurate, fine. But given that the lake's conditions fluctuated considerably over a span of months (as documented at both http://www.cdera.org/cunews/news/dominica/article_792.php and http://www.natureisland.com/BoilingLake.html), it should be referenced somewhere. Perhaps a "Geology" section is warranted ... the island's youthful geology is responsible for the rugged terrain, boiling lake and great diving. Plus there are 10 active volcanoes (according to the CDERA site).

Besides, this line currently in the Geography section -- "The volcanic nature of the island and the lack of sandy beaches have made Dominica a popular scuba diving spot." -- has nothing to do with geography ... the information pertains to oceanography or geology.

71.60.13.179 (talk) 03:46, 7 March 2008 (UTC) Brian E.

[edit] Political Opinion

Having lived in Dominica for five years (1999-2004), I was exposed to the strong sentiments of the people when it came to their leaders. However, the entry that refers to Edison James [[1]]and is a link from the main page on Dominica, has a reference to his "egomanical personality", which I believe violates the Wikipedia NPOV [[2]]Ediabid (talk) 04:09, 10 June 2008 (UTC) Thia A.