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[edit] Removal of article?
A year ago this month, I created this article--now I'm wondering if it has any merit or worth being on Wikipedia at all. When I added this entry, the very concept of Dollar Cinema was unique, it being the only one of its kind in Canada and certainly the least expensive ticket price in the city. Since the price increase to $2.30 for tickets in January 2007, the very concept of "Dollar Cinema" has vanished. In fact it's not even the most economical theatre any longer, with cinema St.Leonard charging $2.18 for ticket admission.
Granted the theatre still charges only one dollar plus tax for beverages and snacks (for the time being anyway) that still doesn't make it unique. Incidentally I doubt this alone attracts people to the theatre, it's food consession operation is pretty amateur run (popcorn in small brown bags, soda in cans, pre-packaged candy bars and chips).
So essentially "Dollar Cinema" is now just another typical low-cost second run theatre in the city, just one of many others out there. It was only around as a true Dollar Cinema for 3 and a half years, and the theatre itself doesn't exactly have a rich or interesting history or background. So this is now an article about a theatre that sells vending-machine type consessions for a $1.15....is that worth keeping in Wikipedia? Just want to hear other people's opinions.--Apple2gs 05:51, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
- It is hard for me to say. I think that it should be changed into a more generic article because "dollar theater" redirects here and that is a generic term in at least some parts of the United States to describe a second-run theater with cheap ticket prices. Is there an article on general second run theaters? Marsman57 20:28, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
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- I don't believe there are any articles on the concept of second run cinemas (there is however a second run section in another article...see article: "movie theatre") but I agree this should be changed to cover more than just this one single theatre. It's the equivalent to having an article entry on, say, the convience store across the street where I live rather than an article detailing what a convience store is. Nevermind the fact that this article doesn't even detail a dollar cinema now.
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- What's bothersome is there are FAR more article-worthy theatres in Montreal with historic value (e.g. The Imperial, Empress, Seville, Snowdon, Palace, Loew's, etc) that have no articles on Wikipedia. Dollar Cinema is just a generic run-of-the-mill shopping mall theatre (built in relatively modern times) with absolutely no interesting background or history. Granted it was unique for awhile as the only theatre in Canada to charge $1 (all year round) for films and consessions, but that has now vanished and unlikely to return. Sure they still sell food consessions for $1 a piece, but so does the vending machine at work (and it's even the same brands and types of pre-packaged foods!). In summary, the building isn't unique, the cinema's history isn't unique, the admission price isn't unique, and the films shown are just mainstream Hollywood films--also hardly unique. So what IS the article about? A rundown neighbourhood movie theatre that shows second run films at a budget price. That belongs more in a local business directory than an encyclopedia article--Apple2gs 03:32, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Should article be broadened to cover all dollar-based cinemas, not just one?
This page ought to be replaced by a page explaining the concept of a dollar cinema rather than a specific one.
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- Well this is the ONLY cinema of its kind in Canada--that is, all movies, all the time, at an admission price of one dollar. Are there any one dollar cinemas elsewhere in the world, particularly the States? If there are others using the same name then I'd agree with that.Apple2gs 02:24, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Price increase (no longer a dollar cinema) and actual location of theater
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- This theater is no longer 1 dollar. Check dollarcinema.ca. It is now two dollars. Also dollar cinema is not in Montreal. It is in the City of Cote-St-Luc. The district of Snowden is absolutely nothing. Snowdon metro and the street with that name are in the Montreal Borough of NDG-CDN.
- What is the actual admission cost now, $2.00 or $2.28? I saw a mention of the latter on the discussion board at the website but I'd assume that's after tax. Has the cost of food and drinks been raised too? All this goes contray to the name "Dollar Cinema"; sure it's a bargain, but it's no longer a Dollar cinema.
- Are you certain it's located in Cote St Luc, I thought it was officially in Cote Des Neiges/Snowdon. Cote St Luc is much deeper in.Apple2gs 12:38, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
- - yeah take a look at any map of Cote-St-Luc or the corresponding boroughs and you'll see that the mall is the absolute border.
- Total cost of tickets is 2.30 with taxes. Food is still the same
- http://cotestluc-hampstead-mtlouest.ville.montreal.qc.ca/En/Intro/StreetMap/cslmap.pdf
- look at the top right that's decarie square
- You're right, officially it IS in Cote St Luc, which for some reason has a narrow extension of the city's terrority going right the middle of Cotes Des Neiges and Snowdon. As for the price, it's actually $2.02 plus tax (unless they're still charging 7% GST, which by law they shouldn't be). At least food is still only a dollar but it still is no longer a "dollar cinema".Apple2gs 08:30, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
- This theater is no longer 1 dollar. Check dollarcinema.ca. It is now two dollars. Also dollar cinema is not in Montreal. It is in the City of Cote-St-Luc. The district of Snowden is absolutely nothing. Snowdon metro and the street with that name are in the Montreal Borough of NDG-CDN.
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- officially it is 2.00 plus taxes but yeah Bernie is illiegally charging GST then, because the provincial tax is not 15%
- GST combined with Quebec sales tax is currently 14%, meaning the total ticket cost should be $2.28--to the penny. So yes, the price currently being charged implies either the official price is $2.02 _or_ Bernie is illegally pocketing 1% sales tax. Hopefully the former.Apple2gs 10:12, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
- Removed "(contrary to the name however, only food consessions are priced at one dollar)" from History, as it was made clear earlier in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.30.73.181 (talk) 12:47, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
- As of February 2008 they're still charging $2.30, even though the GST tax has dropped another one percent. I guess we can assume the price has gone up slightly again, it's now $2.04 ticket admission plus tax. ;) -Apple2gs (talk) 19:10, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
- Removed "(contrary to the name however, only food consessions are priced at one dollar)" from History, as it was made clear earlier in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.30.73.181 (talk) 12:47, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
- GST combined with Quebec sales tax is currently 14%, meaning the total ticket cost should be $2.28--to the penny. So yes, the price currently being charged implies either the official price is $2.02 _or_ Bernie is illegally pocketing 1% sales tax. Hopefully the former.Apple2gs 10:12, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
- officially it is 2.00 plus taxes but yeah Bernie is illiegally charging GST then, because the provincial tax is not 15%
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FYI I went to the theatre the first week it opened and the admission and all concession items were originally 1$ including tax. Only a couple of weeks later was it increased (to my chagrin) to 1$ before tax. 03:59, 2 May 2008 (UTC)djheart 03:59, 2 May 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Djheart (talk • contribs)
- Interesting, didn't know that. I have to admit though, the first time I visited (way back in November 2004) I thought it was a little deceptive when I handed over a Loonie and told it wasn't enough. Still, no different than your typical Dollar Store. As of 2008 though it's pretty fraudulent, it's NOT at all dollar cinema (who cares if concessions are $1 plus tax, I can go to a Belle Province restaurant and get a freshly cooked hot dog for 89 cents plus tax, whereas Dollar Cinema's concessions are candy bars and canned sodas, which last I checked, cost the very same thing in a vending machine!). Nothing against Dollar Cinema, it just should be renamed (I don't know, "Twoonie Cinema" or "Super Thrift Cinema"?) and this article probably removed. There's nothing significant about the place anymore where it deserves a Wikipedia entry.Apple2gs (talk) 05:36, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Potential competition
Thought it interesting that the Paramount Montreal megaplex (now known as "Scotia Bank Cinema") is now offering all movies, all day, at $4.95 (taxes included) every Tuesday. That is only slightly double the cost of Dollar Cinema. Granted it is only one day a week and an extra $2.65 for a ticket, the advantage is it's first run movies, more selection, located in center downtown, and best of all--comfortable stadium seating, digital projector, curved screens (or even IMAX), state-of-the-art sound, working air-conditioning AND for the most part, movie patrons that behave themselves! (been distributed by people far too often at Dollar Cinema--cell phones, constant talking, visibly drunk or high, not too mention the stabbing incident).-Apple2gs 18:00, 15 August 2007 (UTC)