Talk:Dog Whisperer
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[edit] Crticisms
Dog expert Mark Derr (author of "A Dog’s History of America") has recently written a NYTimes Op-Ed piece which was highly critical of Milan and his practices.
Take a look:
or try this link (http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/31/opinion/31derr.html?ex=1157256000&en=3af63e2acfb2b695&ei=5087%0A)
I think it really sheds light on Milan's one-size-fits all approach to handling dogs, and the fact that what makes for good TV isn't always built on sound research. I think some of Derr's observations should be invluded here in a 'criticisms" seciton, lest everyone think that Milan's approach is accepted across the board by all dog experts.
- That criticism relates more to Ceasar himself than to this article. Try his page. --Hobbes747 14:21, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] 5/5/06 Lawsuit
He just got sued, somebody wanna include that? It's just as notable as being parodied on South Park.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/TV/05/05/tv.us.dogwhisperer.ap/index.html
link leads to a 404, please fix the link thanks.--Kilikman (talk) 12:34, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Cesar's group
Article says that Cesar is part of a group; and that the group supports the use of devices which causes pain to punish and correct dog behaviour. But as I recall, it seemed as though Cesar believed these types of devices were not necessary? The article needs to cite sources; particularly this one.
[edit] iacp
I agree, it is implying that Ceasar uses those methods or approves of those methods. I was unable to find any inkling that was part of IACPs mission statements or purpose and it seems to be open for any type of professional from Vets, groomers to trainers which will use all kinds of different methods.
They do have a position on their website about debarking (surgical, not shock colar) and service dogs.. but that type of information belongs under IACP wiki article and not under every member of IACP or in Cesar's case, an honorary member. It looks like they offer a lot of exams, etc and I'm taking by 'honorary' means he didn't take an exam anyway.
[edit] iacp
Took out the message about the IACP
"The IACP promotes the usage of punishment and electronic devices to treat animal behavior. " there is no source to this and nothing on the website indicates that fact, and seems to offer memberships via various people taking exams, like training exams, grooming, etc -- like a certification. cesar is also an honorary member (didn't take an exam). nothing in mission statements/purpose indicates the iacp promotes this --
HOWEVER, if so, a better place to put that commentary would be on an IACP page (along with sourcing it)
Probably a better place to even put the IACP membership is on the Cesar page and not the dog whisperer page, but moved it so it was in the brief introduction. Will make a stub for IACP.
Oogles 17:38, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
The correct title of the show is "Dog Whisperer," without the definite article "The."
[edit] Title
The last unsigned poster is right, it's Dog Whisperer. Looking at Dog Whisperer looks like the last person merged the wrong way - someone feel free to do that ;) Oogles 15:29, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
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- No idea how. 67.164.209.137 02:40, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Requested move
This actual title of the program is Dog Whisperer, not The Dog Whisperer. Could an admin please move the page to the correct name? See above for community consensus. Thanks. --Elonka 18:43, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] POV tag?
Someone slapped this with a POV tag. I'll assume it's for the criticism section with the excessively long link list of anti-Cesar articles. It needs some balance, since there has been a lot of praise for the program as well. Furthermore, the links are just presented as "Further Reading", which is not appropriate for an encyclopedia. They should only be including in the references list, and only if they are being referenced by the article itself. Rebochan 13:08, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
