Talk:Doctor Who Magazine
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[edit] Special Editions
As the collections have been listed how about listing the recent series of Special Editions? Bladeboy1889 15:56, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
- Good work!! Yeah go for it, can't hurt. I think it possibly needs expanding on the real world impact (reviews etc.) but, as I've just found my old copies of the early DW Weekly/Monthly issues I'll see if there is anything else that can be added but it does look pretty solid in that area. (Emperor 16:17, 1 August 2007 (UTC))
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- I'll try and have a go next week although my copies are buried in boxes at the moment whilst I'm decorating! Bladeboy1889 19:47, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
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- Well I've added this now - makes the whole article a bit long now though. Perhaps we should consider breaking out the colections and special editions sections into separate articles? Bladeboy1889 13:22, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
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- Good work. As it stands it isn't yet tripping the page too long warning and that is only the minimum size itself (given the increase in bandwidth). So it is something worth keeping an eye on but it is probably too early for a split. (Emperor 15:59, 2 September 2007 (UTC))
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Are the dates given for the Special Editions "on sale" dates, or do they need to be corrected? I have only The Complete Third Doctor on hand at the moment (and the only others I own at all are the analogous volumes for the 1st, 2nd, & 6th Drs., though I'd like to have all of the original series Drs.' editions) and the cover date there is "5 September 2002," not "July" as given here. I think that the cover dates are what ought to be listed anyway. Anybody else? Ted Watson (talk) 20:44, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
- Cover dates are usually the date a magazine is to be removed from the shelf by the newsagent. Not just DWM, but all magazines, although these days some magazines produced every 4 weeks still have a "month" off-shelf date which doesn't quite match by the end of the year (and meaning that they end up having a "Christmas" dated issue, too) Stephenb (Talk) 08:41, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
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- Magazines are to be removed from the retailer's display when the next issue arrives--if they don't send unsold copies back then, they can't get their money back (yes, this doesn't apply to direct-distribution outlets, but it is the way it is done in general, at least here on the west side of the pond). Issues started getting cover-dated a few months in the future in hope that it would get them left on the shelves longer and get more copies sold (presumably, the retailers-get-refunds-from-wholesalers process didn't exist way back then). The every-four-weeks-publication resulting in an extra (thirteenth) issue in the year is why they are given dates more specific than just the month, such as the "5 July 1995" one cited for DWM #227 in a ref. note on The Claws of Axos. Others include Analog Science Fiction and Fact and Ellery Queen's Mystery Magazine. Furthermore, since cover dates are what are found on the issues themselves and are what are used in reference citations, I still feel that those are what should be listed here. Of what possible after-the-fact interest in an academic context can the original on-sale dates be (as opposed to the cover dates, which are in the general ballpark as to release, anyway)? Post a good answer to that question and I'll go along with them. Note that I am asking, not just making the changes. Ted Watson (talk) 21:51, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
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- Yes, that's the way that many American magazine cover dates work now; however, the traditional reason for the cover date is for when the retailer was to remove the magazine from the shelf. This has changed somewhat over the years, as the distribution process became more sophisticated and magazine publishing began to take advantage of that, but remains the tradition for the majority of magazines over here in the UK. In the "every 4 weeks" case, many over here don't give a specific date but still give a month (e.g. SFX magazine and other Future Publishing magazines) meaning they have a Christmas issue as well as Jan - Dec issues. DWM is fairly unusual for a 4-weekly in listing a full date rather than just a month, AFAIK. The on-shelf date is more important IMO - this is when the object in question went on sale and available to readers, and therefore the cover-date less useful in an academic context (who cares when it was due to be removed?). That's not to say cover dates should not be in the article, but the release dates ought to be there too. Stephenb (Talk) 11:06, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
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- (My apologies for forgetting to check this board yesterday; really, just absent-mindedness, not that I didn't care) OK, we are pretty much straight about what the dates mean in our respective countries (though I doubt the cover dates mean--or ever meant--removal time in the US; in theory, the next issue arrives before the date is reached, and in this sort of retrospective context, very few people think of them as anything more specific than the issue's date). However, as the cover dates are on the publications themselves (& in reference citations), and the on-sale dates are difficult to document (if not determine) years after the event, I really feel the latter have a lack of value here. A similar principle is why most general sources don't give precise release dates (just the year) for motion pictures. Anybody else want to weigh in on this? Ted Watson (talk) 21:42, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Comic strip?
The entry says comic strip but that is a rather specific form and I've read quite a few back in the day and don't recall them being a "strip" (single panel high and usually 3 or 4 panels wide). They were full page (some single some multi-page) comics stories along the same lines as those providing the full content of other British comics anthologies. As I say it has been years so I could be wrong so I thought I'd check. (Emperor 18:49, 26 February 2007 (UTC))
- That's correct — they're not comic strips, they're full-page comics; indeed, the vast majority were multi-page. I'll try to fix the article. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 22:31, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
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- I think the problem is that comic strips and funny pages are often used rather informally in teh UK to mean comics too but (as I've discussed elsewhere) it is quite clear defined here and there is a distinction - for example Judge Dredd has appeared in comic form (in 2000 AD) as a comic strip (in the Daily Star) and as a comic book (when they did a US edition). Interestingly the collected volumes are described (at least at Amazon) as comic strips [1] but we should probably be clearer here as the comic strip entry that was linked in could cause a lot of confusion about the format they were published in. So thanks for sorting that out.
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- Actually I should mention the collections. (Emperor 23:07, 26 February 2007 (UTC))
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- For what it's worth, the "Doctor Who?" comic by Quinn and Howett was a comic strip in the strict sense (even though at the moment it's called a "cartoon" in the article). —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 23:33, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Sheila Cranna
I think Sheila Cranna actually edited 31 issues, not 30. In addition to issues 107-136, she also was the credited editor for 97. CzechOut 19:36, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Collections
Panini have done a good job collectiing together the old comic stories all/most of which I assume were first published in the mag. [2] [3] [4] Would it be worth giing a quick outline of them an what they collect? It would I assume eventually give a reasonable outline of the comic stories published in the mag. (Emperor 23:07, 26 February 2007 (UTC))
- Sure — if you want to do it, you can, or I can whip something up in the next day or two. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 23:27, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
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- I'll see how things go. I might jot out an outline and take it from there. (Emperor 00:03, 27 February 2007 (UTC))
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- I've made a start, but haven't added the End Game stories as I wasn't sure what was in them. (Emperor 04:11, 27 February 2007 (UTC))
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- I've updated Endgame - I can do Flood when Play.com deliver it. (Bladeboy1889 20:11, 31 July 2007 (UTC))
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So where should the Voyager details go? In chronological order of the Doctor (ie between the fifth and eight doctor books) or chronologically for the books based on release date? Bladeboy1889 (talk) 15:24, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] USA?
Is this avliable in the US? User:Nokom
- If you follow the link to the website, Panini offer overseas subscriptions. Otherwise, I believe some specialist stores or mail-order companies offer it. Stephenb (Talk) 19:33, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
Its Nokom again, not logged in atm though :) I will check out their website now :) A normal book store like borders wouldn't carry them then? How often do they come out, also?
- Asthe article notes, the magazine currently comes out every four weeks, for a total of 13 issues per year. I've never seen it in an average American bookstores like Borders, though. Your best bet to find copies on the shelf is in comic book shops. Rob T Firefly 17:47, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
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- I know that Borders in Australia carries it, but I'm not sure whether it would be the same for the US. VaughnJess 08:13, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Reversal of Vandalism
I have reversed the vandalism that was done to the Doctor Who Magazine jpeg image. Kathleen.wright5 09:42, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Doctor Who comics
It is looking like it might be worth start something to bring together the Doctor's comic outings as IDW Publishing are producing their own original titles too (aas well as comics in Doctor Who - Battles in Time Comic Stories and Doctor Who Adventures#Comic) and this article doesn't really make the natural home for bringing them together.
I'd suggest "Doctor Who (comics)" in line with things that draw together comics for franchises produced by different companies: Battlestar Galactica (comic book), Xena: Warrior Princess (comics), etc. Although "Doctor Who comics" might be more natural following Buffy comics, Stargate comics - actually that makes sense as it can draw together Doctor Who comics while the others imply they are comics called Doctor Who - so Doctor Who comics. This can stay here and get linked in via {{main}}.
Nosing around there also seems to be a Doctor Who manga. (Emperor (talk) 19:42, 12 March 2008 (UTC))
- I'd probably suggest splitting this off to form the core of such an entry Doctor Who spin-offs#Comics. (Emperor (talk) 19:46, 12 March 2008 (UTC))