Talk:Do it yourself

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[edit] Irony

Am I the only one who finds it deliciously ironic that someone has added a tag requesting that someone else clean this article up? --Tysto 02:19, 2005 August 2 (UTC)

I agree. The article is not that bad, has some good references and adds historical content. Much better than many other articles I have seen. Why does it not show up in the "history that someone put that in there? Lgreen 04:15, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
  1. (cur) (last) 14:13, June 18, 2005 Ashdurbat m (cu) was where it was added, cu standing for clean-up. (You may have looked at the history for this discussion page instead of the one for the article - I do that occasionally. I think it does need some cosmetic work, but I am against clean-up tags unless the article is REALLY bad. Yes, I do see the irony. :) Spalding 18:40, August 21, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Spam links

Seems a popular spot for spam links, I just got rid of one.— ceejayoz ★ 23:10, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

It seems like the two external links in this line: DIY personalized gift like Zazzle or Kadang are spam. They have very little to do with DIY, and more to do with ordering personalized gifts. --64.16.165.213 20:59, 30 November 2006 (UTC)


Oppose Most of the links are not spam. They are useful and interesting. Ironically the least useful links are the wikihow to's. Is wikipedia not supposed to collect external links that are valuable additions to the main topic? The links could be organized better, but please, stop deleting them.

On second thought, all of wiki-how is junk, useless junk

[edit] 1989 LeSabre 3.8

when my lesabre gets to normal operating temp it putters and dies out and smokes black . ive replaced the timing chain ,cam pos sensor, and the crank shaft sensor and the problem is still the same,I really need help it's my only car.at cool temps it runs fine but, 1 mile later it starts acting up

Try http://www.handymanwire.com/ubbthreads/postlist.php?Cat=&Board=UBB4. I have found that site useful for all-around handyman and gardening as well as automative answers, so I will post it on the article page. I have no affiliation with it other than as a satisfied long-time member, so hopefully noone will delete it and call it a SPAMlink. There are a great many good automotive forums on the web that would give you good help. I would try one for your specific car.
Please keep this policy in mind for future posts: Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia_is_not_a_publisher_of_original_thought.
Thank you, and good luck with your problem. Spalding 18:30, August 21, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Food

I make my own dinner. abelson 12:08, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Good for you. Is it from a box? Hyacinth 14:05, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Hubs of DIY

This article has no mention hubs of DIY culture like Make magazine and Hack-a-day

[edit] Injuries

…although DIY has been responsible for an increase in injuries at home.

Can anyone cite a source for this claim? This really shouldn't be in the article unless it can be verified. - Orioneight 19:52, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Merge

DIY ethic and DIY Culture should be merged into this article.

  • Oppose DIY is about fixing up your home, DIY Culture is a social movement not far removed from Anarchism. A world of difference. --Salix alba (talk) 09:30, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Oops! I got this article mixed up with DIY ethic. I was meaning to suggest a merge of DIY ethic and DIY Culture. When I was putting on the templates I got Do it yourself mixed in without noticing the difference. I'm going to switch the templates. Ecto 10:21, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup

I removed the cleanup notice from the article as there is no indication here of what needs to be cleaned up. Hyacinth 08:11, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merge DIY culture and DIY ethic into this

It seems that there are two other unconnected articles related to this one:DIY culture and DIY ethic. I suggest that they be merged into this one or at least that there is some mentioning and linking in between of them.--Mirabile Dictu 21:06, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

I could understand merging DIY Culture and DIY Ethic together, but they deserve at least one seperate page. The ethic and culture that surrounds it is pretty important, especially within the punk subculture and the anarchist political movement (two things I am intimately connected with). It's important to other subcultures as well, and they deserve more than a mere mention here. They are pretty important. Ungovernable ForceThe Wiki Kitchen! 05:37, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
I agree with Ungovernable Force that DIY culture and DIY ethic should be merged together, but not with DIY. However, a section refering it should be created in this article. -- Nmnogueira 11:47, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] just a suggestion

I saw cool images of DIY on the wikipage Duck Tape...Why not doing the same thing on this page and putting some examples of what impressive things people can make by themselves? The Duck Tape's page is very popular amoung my friends...They all think that it's a very cool and special page...I just think that it could be nice if people would say the same thing about this wikipage too...no?

[edit] Capitalisation of page title

Ok, so this maybe a little trivial, but bear with me. This article is called "Do it yourself" but the phrase throughout the article is "Do It Yourself" with capital I and capital T. Do It Yourself redirects here, but maybe it should be the other way round. Pelago 21:11, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] External links

I removed the external links:

spammy link to buy-a-DVD site
very immature wiki
immature wiki
illustrated articles on many topics: link placed in Do-It-Yourself#Guides_in_other_wiki
illustrated articles on many topics: link placed in Do-It-Yourself#Guides_in_other_wiki
fairly limited, basic and un-illustrated
moribund bb
illustrated articles on many topics: link placed in Do-It-Yourself#Guides_in_other_wiki
"The site is a total mess right now, but have no fear. We are working day and night to get this together. This could end up being the only place you need on the web for DIY plans of all types. From go-carts plans to houses and anything else you can imagine we are going to try and get it."
  • Do It Yourself, Time magazine article, Jun 30, 1952 (cited by the Oxford English Dictionary for the term's emergence)
seems to be reprint of Time article promoting a business
404
The requested URL /index.htm was not found on this server.. Parent directory is family snapshot album!
almost-empty BB
superficial
small collectio of not-very-useful tips and howtos
Thoughtful articles (referencing Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance): link placed in Do-It-Yourself#Guides_in_other_wiki

I've listed reasons for some above: others were more-or-less useful as sources of info on doing DIY but don't (IMHO) add anything to an article about DIY itself.

From What Wikipedia is not:

Wikipedia is not a ... repository of links ...
1. Mere collections of external links or Internet directories. There is nothing wrong with adding one or more useful content-relevant links to an article ...

These links didn't seem "content-relevant".

--John Stumbles 22:40, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] March 11, 2007

While Wikipedia is not censored, the edit tonight does not seem to fit in the spirit of this article. If another editor feels as I do, please revert. Ronbo76 06:22, 12 March 2007 (UTC)