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[edit] Contributions

Hi there! I see you've greated a couple of new articles; great work. I just wanted to ask you to include in those article the appropiate categories (check for articles in similar topics). Good wiking, --Mariano(t/c) 13:07, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, will try to remember to do this next time I start a new article.Dnfenner 13:49, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

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Gracias Dnfenner 14:25, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Signature

There seams to be something wrong with your signature; it doesn't provide a link to your user page. That makes it harder to answer to you, or know anything about you. I suggest you also include a link to your talk page. My signature does both things, and has also a link to my contributions. Cheers, --Mariano(t/c) 16:38, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Here's my signature again: Dnfenner 19:07, 17 May 2007 (UTC) This time you should be able to connect to my talk page. David

I guess you will have to keep working on it... Dont' despare!

Go to My Preferences, Signature, and select Raw Signature

(my sign code is [[User:Marianocecowski|Mariano]]<small>([[User talk:Marianocecowski|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Marianocecowski|c]])</small>)

--Mariano(t/c) 19:37, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Try this: David 19:44, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Kavanagh

Hi dave. The article looks great. The most popular version of the legend will do, though it would be perhaps good to have some references to it. --Mariano(t/c) 17:09, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image

Hey, I saw you uploaded a great picture on the Club de Pescadores. I wanted to ask you two things regarding images: try to upload them at commons:, (you'll need to create another user), and also use more descriptive file names. Thanks for the greate article! --Mariano(t/c) 17:43, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your useful comments. Glad you like the image. It's one of my favourite places in BA.David(Talk • Contribs) 20:11, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gate Theatre Studio

Dear David

I am simply astonished by your twice wrongfully changing the correct Gate Theatre London into the spurious 'Gate Theatre Studio', not least because as far as I can tell, the latter never existed - studio theatres only became a reality after the second world war.

If you look at Phyllis Hartnoll's Oxford Companion to the Theatre under Gate Theatre, London, you will find that the Gate Theatre, London was first in Floral Street before moving to Villiers Street WC2 in 1927.

Adding London (as I did) prevents any confusion with the Gate Theatre, Dublin - and the date alone will separate it from the latterday Gate Theatre in Notting Hill Gate. Note: The Gate Theatre London, later became the Players Theatre (underneath the arches).

Let's be quite clear, Wikipedia has come under media fire recently for its susceptiblity to 'errors'. As Wikipedians we must all be constantly on our guard against creating new 'errors'. I have therefore amended my Oscar Wilde/Robert Morley listing to show that it was performed at the Gate Theatre, London — Villiers Street WC2, which is 100 per cent accurate if a bit otiose.

Of course when the play moved to the Arts Theatre in October 1938 the title role was given to Francis L Sullivan,

So, to state the obvious, we really cannot afford to undermine encyclopedic accuracy in the interests of following up pet causes.

As it happens, back in the early 1950s I was a fan of your godfather Sewell Stokes' writing as a probation officer, especially his brilliant I Believe In You, published as a paperback in Pan Books and memorably made into a film starring Cecil Parker, Harry Fowler and Joan Collins. But I would not allow my enthusiasm to affect Wikipedia accuracy. Okay?

Best wishes, John Thaxter

Further to this. I have now had a look at your Sewell Stokes article, and am glad to be reminded that his Pan paperback was issued as Court Circular. But you need to note that to find the film link to Marie Antoinette you should use the form: Marie Antoinette (1938 film)..

Also Melvyn Bragg has a letter 'y' in his first name.

I suspect you were unaware that Norman Marshall's production of Oscar Wilde was completely recast and opened at the Arts Theatre on 25 October, 1938. You can find full cast details of both stagings in Who's Who in the Theatre, 9th edition, 1939. Let me know if you require details of specific re-castings.

I suspect it was the Arts re-staging that first interested the New York producers, especially as Francis L Sullivan had worked extensively in Hollywood and New York - see Halliwell Who's Who in the Movies and Ephraim Kurtz Film Encyclopaedia. John Thaxter 15:00, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Dear David

I owe you an apology.

Instead of looking at the Oxford Companion, I should really have consulted my two Mander and Mitchenson books on London theatres — although both the Theatre Who's Who listing of London theatres by name and address, and Morley's own Who's Who entry pointed me in the same direction!

But in Lost Theatres of London (Rupert Hart-Davies 1968), Raymond and Joe describe in detail the two between-the-wars manifestations of the Gate Theatre, one, in Floral Street , known as the Salon (The Gate to Better Things), and then the move to Gattis at 16A Villiers Street (not underneath the arches) which was given the new title of The Gate Theatre Studio. Albeit that they also regularly use the simple title Gate Theatre throughout the text.

Page 57 of the book has a splendid but uncredited production photograph of Morley as Oscar Wilde in 1938, while on page 59 there is reference to a useful book by Norman Marshall himself, a between-the-wars theatrical history called THE OTHER THEATRE, which might prove useful. I looked at Abe Books [1] and found a dozen second hand booksellers offering the book for less than £5 - the cheapest is only just over £2!

Raymond and Joe also added a wistful para hoping that 'another Norman Marshall' would bring the Fringe theatre history up to date. You perhaps?

Regards, John Thaxter 14:55, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Dear John, I am pleased that we are now in agreement over the name of the theatre. Yes, it's a superb photo of Robert as Oscar Wilde. I have an original print of it and would like to put a scan of it on the Robert Morley page. Being new to this game I'm not sure whether I am allowed to do this as far as copyright issues are concerned. What do you think? Best wishes. David(Talk • Contribs) 16:24, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Dear David

I think you could safely use the pic, since it was used by Mander and Mitchenson without credit, and I suspect was taken solely for publicity reasons.

I have cheekily amplified your Gate Theatre Studio article with material drawn from Mander and Mitchenson, the Oxford Companion and also from Theatre Record and Who's Who in the Theatre.

Should anything jar with you, do please feel free to edit what I have added!

I do believe that between us we are getting somewhere with this research.

Best wishes, John Thaxter 15:51, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Dear David

Thanks, excellent. I have added dates to the 'controversial' productions listed, so that those interested in censorship can check them out,

Like you I have no idea how to set up a disambiguation page. But the brilliant User Talk:MarnetteD has been a great help, and given the infomation could probably do it for you, or suggest how.

I am sure there are other Gate theatres but I am not aware of them! Any others can always be added later.

Since first writing this note I have been trying to clarify the Lord Chamberlain entry and its many cross links, which seem to range from tight-lipped officialdom to coarse jollity, If you have nothing else to do you might find this another area for your research activities!

Best wishes, John Thaxter 18:42, 26 May 2007 (UTC), and

John Thaxter 23:53, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re:El Ateneo

Please, just fix my mistakes whenever you see one. Perhaps the best format would be Santa Fe Avenue 1860? With common used names I usually say things like "The Cafeteria El Molino coffee house". Take care, --Mariano(t/c) 22:33, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Azul

I have absolutely no idea how come my changed version didn't include that paragraph, sorry. --Mariano(t/c) 15:12, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Alvear

My pleasure. --Mariano(t/c) 18:47, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Arts Theatre

Dear David

Neither of the Mander and Mitchenson volumes in my collection feature the Arts Theatre, so we can find no help there.

But studying the Who's Who in the Theatre volumes, covering both before and during/after the 1939-45 war, there is no question that OSCAR WILDE was staged at the main Great Newport Street venue.

This is borne out by the simple legend 'Arts' at the head of the playbill, a name elsewhere defined in a seating plan (showing Stalls, Circle and two Loges A and B) as:

Arts Theatre, Great Newport Street, WC2, Telephone TEMple Bar 7541, Approximate seating capacity: 334.

It also appears as one of the PRINCIPAL LONDON THEATRES, together with a tabulated format listing:

Width of proscenium opening 20ft 10in
Height of proscenum opening 14ft 6in
Depth from proscenium wing to back wall 19ft 6in
Distance between side walls 30ft 6in
Distance between fly rails or girders 24ft 0in
Height from stage to grid 49ft 0in
Depth from under fly platform to stage 21ft 0in
Depth under stage 8ft 0in
Height to take cloths up out of sight 21ft 0in
Approxiate seating capacity 334

I can find nothing about another 'theatre' called the Arts Theatre Club, but it is common knowledge that the Arts Theatre took on club theatre status to avoid problems with the Lord Chamberlain, which would require office support for the maintenance of mailing lists and the like, and which of course would also have opened for business in 1927.

So my guess would be that the Club's offices were once situated in the theatre building at Great Newport Street, but when more space was needed the staff were outhoused at an office in Frith Street, five minutes walk away.

[edit] Rodney Ackland

Dear David

While writing up Rodney Ackland for Wiki I discovered that his Who's Who in the Theatre CV clearly states:

He made his stage debut at the Gate Theatre studio in 1924, playing Medvedieff in The Lower Depths.

Was he wrong? Or does this disturb the Gate Theatre Studio's opening date of 1925? I need more time to think about it, but thought I should let you know right away.

Regards, John Thaxter 15:36, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Further to this, I have now done a complete makeover of the Ackland article, which you may find of interest.

I now recognise that he was only in his 16th year when he made his stage debut at the Gate Theatre studio (note small 's' in his CV), presumably between leaving Balham Grammar and taking up stage training at Central.

So my guess is that this 'studio' was some tiny unofficial space for pro-am productions, which may then have inspired the name for the Gate Theatre Salon of 1925. Some credence is given to this because the Theatre Who's Who playbills for the period record no professional London production of The Lower Depths in London in the mid-1920s.

Incidentally, I chanced to look at our joint Gate Theatre Studio article and spotted several typos and mis-punctuations. I have put these right and have slightly rearranged the last three paras to provide a logical progression (now ending with the closure before embracing the future of fringe theatre).

I have also used the vertical solidus (i.e. |) to ensure that the reader is NOT taken to Queen Victoria herself from the title of Houseman's play, nor to the Gate Theatre (Dublin) when in search of the Gate Theatre (London).

I have also reduced the link to the Arts Theatre Club, which now reads Arts Theatre Club, thus correctly taking the reader to the Arts Theatre article which - at some time - I agree we should work on to expand!!

Best. John Thaxter 11:07, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

David: From your response I am unsure whether or not you looked at the second half of my note about the Gate Theatre Studio and Ackland's juvenile involvement! So earwiggo again, just in case. John Thaxter 12:27, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks a lot

I hereby award this barnstar for your great work creating and improving articles about railways in Argentina. Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 15:07, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image use

You may have noticed this already, but...

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Central Argentine Railway

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[edit] Cut and paste moves

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[edit] Towns' location maps

See Wikipedia talk:Argentina-related regional notice board#Location for a discussion of that. It's old talk and it's not being implemented right now, but it works. —Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 13:11, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Argentine Railway Companies

David, Thanks for your comments. Unfortunately the policy in the Spanish Wikipedia is very stricts and large templates are not allowed. Anyway I will ask other people on the Argentina Wikiproject how to better categorize the now large category es:Categoría:Ferrocarril en Argentina. Best regards, Alpertron 14:02, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

I continued translating the articles to Spanish. From your text, it appears that the Santa Fe Western (SFW) was not a British-owned Railway Company. When the Central Argentine Railway bought it in 1900, the former disappeared, so that was simply a British-owned Railway Company buying an Argentine-owned Railway Company. Am I right? If this is the case, the SFW cannot be included in the template. Best regards, Alpertron 03:09, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Paris Pullman

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[edit] Resurrection of the Gate Theatre article??

Dear David

I was very sorry to see that your article on the Gate Theatre, London was deleted, since it appears to me to be an essential item for theatre researchers and students using wikipedia.

Just one observation makes the point: the careers of Stephen Daldry and Thea Sharrock as two of the Gate's artistic directors took off at this Notting Hill address and without the influence and opportunities offered by The Gate Theatre, several other centres of excellence including the Royal Court, Theatre Royal Bath and the National could now be the poorer both artistically and financially.

I asked Manette D if it was possible to resurrect deleted articles, so that, say, I (or you) could do some further work on it to give it a renewed life. It seems from the reply (on my Talk page) that there are a couple of avenues that could be pursued. I would certainly prefer that than to struggle with creating a new article from scratch, especially if someone were again likely to end its life suddenly. What do you think?

It has also occurred to me that you may still have a draft or back-up copy on your hard drive. If so and you emailed it to me I would be very happy to see what I could do with it to silence the criticism of 'lack of notability' and 'blatant copyright infringement' given as reasons for the deletion. Best wishes, John Thaxter 23:13, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletion of Paris Pullman

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[edit] Resurrection of the Gate Theatre article??

Dear David I was very sorry to see that your article on the Gate Theatre, London was deleted, since it appears to me to be an essential item for theatre researchers and students using wikipedia.

I asked Marnette D if it was possible to resurrect deleted articles, so that, say, I (or you) could do some further work on it to give it a renewed life. It seems from the reply (on my Talk page) that there are a couple of avenues that could be pursued. I would certainly prefer that than to struggle with creating a new article from scratch, especially if someone were again likely to end its life suddenly. What do you think? It has also occurred to me that you may still have a draft or back-up copy on your hard drive. If so and you emailed it to me I would be very happy to see what I could do with it to silence the criticism of 'lack of notability' and 'blatant copyright infringement' given as reasons for the deletion. Best wishes, John Thaxter 23:21, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] More about the Arts

Dear David

I was surprised to see that the Arts Theatre was still a tiny stub!

I have added some useful bumf, most of it from the Oxford Companion, but also from Theatre Record. Maybe you might like to do a bit more. I got to the article because I was surprised there was no link from my article on James Saunders to the New Arts Theatre. I wonder why and how it took on the name New Arts for a while?

Best wishes, John Thaxter 09:29, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Dear David

I have done a little more on the Arts Theatre, also with the links to the articles on the Unicorn Theatre, John Van Druten and James Saunders, each of which I have substantially upgraded.

Checking with the Appendix listing Principal London Theatres in Theatre Who's Who, the term 'New' Arts Theatre was a five year phase in the Sixties, first used on 12 April 1962 when Henry Livings' Nil Carborundum opened, then fell out of use on 9 January 1967 withThe Six O'Clock Holiday Show (starring Larry Adler). This was at about the time that Caryl Jenner, founder of Unicorn, was negotiating to take over the Arts Theatre lease. Can we clarify further?

Best John Thaxter 21:32, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Q Theatre

Dear David

I have added two essential references to your Q Theatre stub.

You can probably get a copy of the late Kenneth Barrow's superb ON Q book from Jean de Leon on 020-8940 1773 (unless she has died since I last spoke to her a couple of years ago). She lives in a mansion on Kew Green. Failing that Hounslow Leiisure Services will have spare copies.

But I will help when I have time - currently doing a massive update on the Evening Standard Awards which threatens to wreck my home life!

Regards, John Thaxter 15:24, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

PS I am not sure if the Lord Chamberlain ever came into it at Q, Jack was a commercial guy and not given overly to experiment and controversy! John Thaxter 15:24, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Dear David

I have greatly enlarged the Q article, mainly with my piece for the R&TT (at the time I was the paper's chief theatre critic, when it was the West London equivalent of the Ham and High - but now fallen into disarray).

I may later add a para or two from Dirk Bogarde's Postillion memoirs, which make good copy.

Incidentally at a very tender age I was doing delivery jobs for a leading West End florist, and often made my way to the Q Theatre on opening nights with a bunch of flowers for the star of the show - but for some reason never got a tip! John Thaxter 10:17, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Argentine Railways

Hi, I've seen your excellent work on Railways in Argentina, I was wondering if you had thought of making an article on the History of railways in Argentina, or just a Railways in Argentina overview page as either would be a useful thing to link to when not discussing a particular railway company. Let me know if something like this already exists and I've overlooked it, or if you ever create it. I would attempt it myself but I'm sure you could do a much better job of it. Keep up the good work. King of the North East 00:04, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ferrocarril Central Norte

Hi Dnfenner, Thanks for creating Ferrocarril Central Norte. You have done quite a nice job on it. Please try to split the article into sections, so it is easier to find information the reader may be looking for. Thanks! --Ohmpandya (talk) 22:09, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

		The Original Barnstar
		I hereby award Dnfenner a barnstar for his tireless work in documenting the Railways of Argentina. -- Alexf⁴² 00:38, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Nora Swinburne

Dear David: You may be interested in my detailed work on the career or Nora Swinburne, who graced the West End stage in her middle years. Best wishes John Thaxter (talk) 00:42, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Award

		The Argentine traindriver award
		Awarded to Dnfenner for his outstanding work on Argentine railways (we await the overview page with anticipation). King of the North East 23:07, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Urquiza Line

Hey Dnfenner, thanks for copy editing Urquiza Line, ...and I thought i was good in English, nevertheless i knew it needed polishing by an expert, and by the way, how'd you liked the article!?, tried to blend in the "Rapid Transit" characteristics of the Urquiza line with the Metro somehow.

I regards to Buenos Aires and Argentines rail articles, what you think of developing more connectivity within all rail services, in central Europe they have the U-Bahn and the S-Bahn, (rapid transit and commuter) and both have a distinct logos (icons) and used in all connections.

How about developing at least one logo for Electric Commuter and another for Diesel Commuters, how do we go about this, who do we get in touch for approval, it wouldn't be official but officially they have none, most maps are Self made and downloaded, could we do the same for these "icons"?

lol, Moebiusuibeom-en (talk) 16:23, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Hey David, in reference to the separate articles for different lines, i couldn't agree even more, (evolution maybe) been wanting to do that for a while.

I've started already by organizing the lines as you can see here Linea Mitre (Buenos Aires), Linea Sarmiento (Buenos Aires), hope you agree.

Now, Linea Sarmiento for example has the following train services:

Urban

•Once/Miserere – Moreno

•Once/Miserere – Castelar

•Puerto Madero – Castelar

Suburban

•Moreno – Mercedes

•Moreno – Lujan

•Merlo – Lobos

•Merlo – Las Heras

I presume the idea is to include each one of this lines with it's history and characteristics.

We can work together if you like, for my part, I'm available to do the maps, get "legal" images and do visual enhancements, all maps should be consistent, would like to differentiate somehow maybe between Diesel end Electric and definitely between Urban, Suburban and Intercity, certain "flexible rules" apply internationally in regards to map design. They could also be linear or in scale.

The Tren de la Costa Map is an exception since its a very particular and lovely line!

I would like to personally start a couple articles if you don't mind, I may be interested in the San Martín Line and the Puerto Madero – Castelar amongst others! and maybe there's other wikipedian knowledgeable about certain lines that could help out!

I've noticed you've changed Urquiza Line for Linea Urquiza, (no problem) had it that way because "Line" (Line A • Line B...) is used in the Buenos Aires Metro and this line may become part of the Metro some day, anyway, we definatelly should live the metro like it is.

The name Urquiza came about when it was nationalized in late 40's by Perón!

Regards ~ Moebiusuibeom-en (talk) 23:49, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

David, In reference to your questions, it'll be a pleasure to work on the maps but give me a few weeks to get them right. The copyright question is indeed very confusing and i truly dislike it!. The Línea accents should be added, i personally didn't notice!!. The Retiro - Rosario- Santa Fe is part of Linea Mitre', but i may be wrong, I'll have to research further. Let me warn you that I may sporadically disappear for a month or so, may have other priorities, anyway, lets do the best ~ Moebiusuibeom-en (talk) 02:37, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

...maps coming up shortly ~ Moebiusuibeom-en (talk) 02:43, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Question! if linear maps for electric suburban rail are of this concept:

how do you think we should differentiate Diesel services!!

Also; I believe we should not keep station spacing consistency since some streches in the suburbs are lenghty, what do you think?

keeping in mind that Regular scaled maps are in the works.

Moebiusuibeom-en (talk) 14:36, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Ref, Maps, i scan, down load, and study them. In La Trochita i must have gone trough 6 different maps, also went to book store to check out Atlases to see in anything was missing. I'll be glad to produce the ones you've mentioned but it takes time, what I'd love to produce is a map off all the tramway lines of BA, witch for years I've been looking for to no avail. Maps are done in Illustrator and some photoshop.

The uniqueness of the actual Urquiza line map is that even though it's sort of linear and not to scale, it keeps some perspective of some longer stretches between stations, will do a little more research on this!

The other question: Any idea on how do you think we should differentiate the map lines between Diesel and Electric services??

Any way of adding and accent to L í nea on Urquiza article, have no idea on how to do this. Moebiusuibeom-en (talk) 18:59, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ronald Harwood

Dear David

My next biggie has been a complete makeover of the Ronald Harwood page, which could even surprise the man himself! Hope you will soon chug your train back into the UK and its theatrical history. Best wishes, John Thaxter (talk) 13:01, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. And as you have provided a note about Peter Hall's revival of The Dresser, I have linked it (via a ref) to my Stage review of the production. Best John Thaxter (talk) 22:30, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Railway station

Hi, I moved them to railway station because the ones in Rosario were titled "xxxx Station", which is wrong in my opinion, because there is no need to capitalise Station. I changed the others from "Estacion xxxx" to "xxxx railway station" for reasons of clarity, because at first glance the meaning of the title is not apparent to non-Spanish speakers. If you look at Cat:Railway stations in Belgium most of them seem to be in English, as do the ones in Germany, Isreal and elsewhere (despite the capital letter abuse). I'm not really bothered if you really want to change them back to "Estacion xxxx" format, but I do think it is better to be consistent, and if you do revert them, perhaps you could rename the Rosario ones in that format too? English peasant 00:07, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletion of Template:British-owned Railway Companies in Argentina

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Thanks. --MZMcBride (talk) 02:38, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fusion Controversy

Hey Dnfenner, here is a little bit of controversy, can a Wikipedian fuse and eliminate an article because he says so: es:Discusión:Ferrocarril General Urquiza (in the Spanish speaking Wikipedia)!!

In other matters, been researching maps throughout and will be having them ready within the next few days, Kind Regards ~ Moebiusuibeom-en (talk)

[edit] MAP

Voilà, here it is:

No way all stations will go on one map, so i've placed most important, though i forgot Victoria, this map may need some polishing, please check it out .

This Map is a 400% version of SUB-URBAN AREAS

300% version will be of GREATER BA AREA

200% version may include ALL RAIL INCLUDING SUBWAYS AND LIGHT RAIL of BA and surrounding area

100 % version would be the CAPITAL.

MAP is also prepared for INDIVIDUAL RAIL LINES

Let me know your thoughts, now we have to do a world class Rail article

Moebiusuibeom-en (talk) 05:48, 2 April 2008 (UTC) '

Hey David, how you doing, sorry for not getting back sooner, was overseas, lots of work and now unfortunately i have problems signing in as "Moebiusuibeom-en" for some reason, either I'm being blocked or its my old browser, haven't got much to choose from for an old dependable Mac OS 9.2!

Anyway, been working on maps, they are almost ready, they look awesome, every little detail has been included, will definitely download them next week, an "experimental version" of the Belgrano Sur route map is already in the Línea Belgrano Sur, final versions may be less fancy, let me know you thoughts, cheers Moebiusuibeom-en alias 64.237.165.247 (talk) 19:51, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

David, again, sorry for not getting back sooner but didn't want to communicate as map needed some final polishing. Metropolitan area map is ready but still needs pixel adjustment and some minor glitches, you can see map in my contributions! it includes almost all stations, several aditional maps are planned (eventually)!

I also reactivated a much needed "Rail transport in Argentina" though its really a Stub, there is plenty of info, and we need all Wikipedia rail fans knowledgeable of this system to fill it up, presently it may lack of grammatical consistency and/or facts! We need to make this a great article!

Cheers, Moebiusuibeom-en (talk) 15:56, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Rail transport in Argentina

Hey David, Rail transport in Argentina "main platform" i think is almost ready, we may need feeling in data and you're good @ this, particularly in it's history (Development) section or anything else, what you think.?

In regards to the commuter maps for each line, i think they they should be linear and unscaled. Let me know of any others we may need!

By the way, I'll probably be lowering resolution on metropolitan rail map since it seems not to be opening correctly!

Greetings, Moebiusuibeom-en (talk) 15:58, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

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