User talk:Dlh-stablelights

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Just wanted to stay hello and welcome to Wikipedia. I have a lot of the veterinary pages on my watchlist, so I've seen the work you are doing. Thanks for expanding the equine disease pages, and let me know if you have any questions or need anything. --Joelmills 23:28, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Thanks

Just a quick thank you for your good work on the gelding article. It has helped transform the article from a disaster to something that is useful and well-sourced. Great work. (p.s. should we try nominating it for Good Article status? Discuss on article talk page if you want). Montanabw 05:15, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] An unrelated question

I see from your user page that you are a horse vet. Could you swing by the cerebellar abiotrophy article and then let me know on my talk page if you have any direct or indirect experience dealing with Arabian horses in the UK that have this condition? I'm looking for cases, past or present. Montanabw 19:13, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

I would be delighted if you would ask around. and Yes, I know, I was the primary editor on the article. I own a horse with the condition. And yes, almost any "Wobbler," if an Arabian, is probably actually a CA case. Probably the most "for sure" symptom is the head tremor, they are like a person with Parkinson's disease. From the literature, apparently not all cases manifest the tremor, but when they DO have it, you can be almost certain you have CA. Also, the ataxia is bilateral, no one-sidedness. Wobbler's often is seen more in the back end, CA horses are more likely to have problems with the front end or with all four feet. Rearing up, losing their balance and falling over is a real common thing, and in addition to being diagnosed as wobblers, often these horses are diagnosed instead as having had brain damage from a concussion after an accident, when the accident itself was probably due to CA.
Few people will drop the $3K or so on the radiographs and myelograms necessary to definitively diagnose true wobbler's or EVM, or any of the other spinal cord things, and with Arabs, it isn't what they are going to find--it's not the spine, it's the cerebellum. Arabs rarely if ever get true Wobbler's, though if you want to skim the genetic diseases section of Arabian horse there is a thing called OAAM that involves the occipital joint, C1 and C2, but it manifests in foals and is definitively diagnosed with X-Rays (and the reearch done on it is about zip). CA, however, is probably far more widespread than anyone realizes, and because it is badly underdiagnosed, researchers are having a tough time getting DNA, especially when the best case scenario are horses who are not only ataxic, but with diagnosis verified post mortem by histopathology of the cerebellum to find the atrophied purkinje cells. The reason it's a concern is that some horses with mild cases can be bred (particularly mares), and in such cases, ALL their foals will be carriers, at the least. And yes, it definitely IS in certain bloodlines, but best not to discuss details on a public board, I can be reached by the email feature if you want to chat further on that.
Sorry, I know I'm going on and on about this. It's personal. I want them to find the gene and develop a DNA test, but the shortage of necessary samples is a big problem. So is the denial on the part of breeders, but, no surprise there. (grin) You'll note in the bibliography an article out of the UK, (I think the journal was In Practice, it's an online pdf) so there is some knowledge of it at some of the Universities n the UK. And you guys are a whole lot closer to Switzerland than I am. The Americans at UC Davis are doing some research, but mostly sitting on their ass, they make more money finding color genes so people can deliberately breed for pretty colors...sigh. The Swiss, if they can get DNA, are in a position to move a lot faster on this. Montanabw 00:50, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Equine medicine articles

As I go through assessing the veterinary medicine articles, I find it difficult at times to correctly rate the importance of articles whose subject I am not too familiar with (or more likely, was familiar with ten years ago but have mostly forgotten). So if you could doublecheck my ratings on the equine articles as I assess them, I would appreciate it. If you're interested, there is a rough guide to importance ratings at Wikipedia:WikiProject Veterinary medicine/Assessment. I'll leave this message over at Eventer's and Montanabw's talk pages also, since I think of you three as the horse guys. --Joelmills 01:23, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Dlh, left a few snippy comments along the way in my assorted edits. Didn't mean to sound so snippy, just was tired and grumpy. You are doing GREAT work and it is appreciated here. Want another task? Fact check horse anatomy. Been some good work going on over there, but none of us are vets. Montanabw 06:16, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Equine Exertional Rhabdomyolysis

Is this the same as Equine polysaccharide storage myopathy, or is one a subset of the other? Neither article makes any mention of the other, so I guess they are duplicating information and should be merged. Before I added merge tags I wanted to check with you and Montanabw, as I am not too familiar with these conditions. --Joelmills 18:43, 10 July 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Kelso's

hi! umm.. you said leave you a message.. what's wrong w/ the new page I made? CloversMallRat 08:19, 11 July 2007 (UTC) _____________________________________________________________________________



[edit] On Leon Rodriguez Ichaso and El Super and Orlando Jimenes Leal

The famous Cuban-Americans page. I don't know how to link or add things properly and I thought that a link to the IMDb would be sufficient. So sorry -- as I meant well. Mig 22:19, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Can I remove what you said on my talk page?

May I?

Please, feel free to remove it. And thank you very much! Mig 04:05, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gelding GA --arrgh

We got nailed by a 20 year old kid on this one, I think. I think that about half of what he said may be partially well taken (that we need a little better intro and more history), but the rest was a rant. I think a few tweaks and tuneups and we should try again. If you find anything to add, go for it. I think the NPOV slap was uncalled for. Montanabw(talk) 17:01, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Maybe this? But I still think you can just fill a section with a discussion of why so many groups support the practice:
  • Ethical issues regarding pain in animals
  • Alexander Livingston, BVetMed, PhD
  • Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association
  • July 15, 2002, Vol. 221, No. 2, Pages 229-233
  • Ling.Nut 01:31, 17 July 2007 (UTC)


Can you figure out this? It's over my head...Montanabw(talk) 07:15, 18 July 2007 (UTC) Please read p. 433 of this. The bit about "...months or even years" seems to be coming from the hydrocele section, not the funicuilitis ("scirrhous cord") section. Also some of the complications seem to have been omitted (hydrocele, continued masculine behavior, etc.) , but maybe that's not important. I'm not a veterinarian. :-) Ling.Nut 00:29, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Help on skeleton diagram

Man do I hate to rain on the parade of an attractive image, but Have you looked CLOSELY at that skeleton diagram Image:Horseanatomy.png Image:Horseanatomy.png? I noticed that it has some SERIOUS inaccuracies (like mislabeling the sacrum as part of the lumbar and coccygeal vertebrae and saying that the horse has a collar bone when it doesn't!) It needs some relabeling and fixing. It's almost so bad we should consider removing it if we can't fix it, which is a real bummer because it's so clear... YIKES!!!! A couple examples that are more correct: http://www.horseracinghistory.co.uk/hrho/images/education/horse_skeleton.gif and http://www.classicbloodstock.com.au/skillsEDIT/clientuploads/39/horseskeleton.jpg Wish I could find something better. Worse yet, they are putting it up as a featured image! Montanabw(talk) 05:23, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New project

Not sure if you are into work on the riding articles, but Per the discussion at the jumping position article, I made a sandbox off from my user page to maybe create a whole new article on riding techniques in general. It's here: User:Montanabw/Sandbox. Dive in and help, or discuss, or whatever. Montanabw(talk) 19:12, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi, who addded Leon Ichaso on the "famous cuban-Americans" list? It wasn't I -- I saw the name after the addition had been made by someone else and then I added him? Where do these additions come from?Mig 14:41, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Invite to WikiProject Equine

This is the official word: WikiProject Equine was quietly created by someone while the rest of us were endlessly discussing a WikiProject Horse. We have an official project! So let's go with it, and I am officially inviting you to formally join! Go to Wikipedia:WikiProject Equine, add your name to the list and see what you can contribute. If you haven't already joined Wikipedia:WikiProject Horse breeds or one of the other "child" or "affiliated" wikiprojects at WikiProject Equine, please feel free to do so. Just trying to tag articles with the new templates has awakened me to the fact that there are over 1000 equine articles in Wikipedia! (My watchlist alone is now at something like 700+) There's much to do and plenty for everyone! Thanks! Montanabw(talk) 09:32, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] CAM topics in veterinary medicine

Hi There, I have recently been involved in editing the Veterinary chiropracticarticle and I would love to have your input on this topic. 'Adjusting' horses is discussed there. --—CynRN (Talk) 18:33, 27 May 2008 (UTC)