Talk:Dissing

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[edit] Disputed origin

I first heard "dis" used in a rap song in which the singer said that he went to Del-Mar and entered a "club called E". In there, he found a woman who "dissed [him] a miss". After this song, everyone was using the term "dis". When asked what it meant, they would say "disrespect". However, that is not what the song meant. In Del-Mar, CA, there is a bar called the "E-Club". It is short for "Enlisted Club" - a bar for enlisted Marines. In the Marine Corps, there is a common phrase "disk a miss". This comes from the firing range. If you miss the target, they will wave a disk across the target - a motion referred to as "disking a miss". So, anytime a Marine misses a target (such as failing at picking up a lady at a bar), his friends will say that she "disked a miss". The reason I am not putting this in the article is that I have no idea who the rap artist was or what the name of the song was. I know it was very early 90s because I was in the Marines at the time. Kainaw 13:27, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Earlier citations for "dis": Crash Crew (1982) has "Guaranteed to get dissed if you tell me I'm wrong." And Miami Vice (1984) has "Tell 'em what you know, man! You're dissin' me!" Pretty clear from the context that the term is at least a few years older than either of those usages (but maybe not printed/recorded). Source is Random House Historical Dictionary of American Slang. BrianTung (talk) 01:02, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Dissing gone mainstream?

Sensenbrenner: Bush Turned Back on Bill

Sensenbrenner did not attend a closed-door meeting between Bush political adviser Karl Rove and House Republicans, but said that some members complained to him that Rove didn't stay around for many questions or hear what lawmakers had to say.

"The overwhelming majority of those that I talked to who were at the conference believe that he dissed the House Republicans," Sensenbrenner said.

I think that's noteworthy: a Republican Congressman is using the verb "to dis" without irony. But how should we work this into the article?

(I think we should also mention the song Beat Dis, where "dis" is being used as a determiner. What do people think?)

--Tphcm 03:52, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Diss track blackmail?

There aren't any cases of a rap artist releasing a track that disses an artist because (s)he was denied a license to sample a song by that artist, are there? --Damian Yerrick (talk | stalk) 21:23, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of diss songs

didnt this used to be tha article that had a list of all diss songs?? i loved that page. is someone going to start a new one?? im down to help. just let me know. Jride247 (talk) 02:58, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Expand, merge or redirect

This page is a mere dictionary definition (something which Wikipedia is not). It explains the meanings, spelling and usage notes of a slang term. Nothing here rises past what I would expect to read in a truly great unabridged dictionary. The definitions and usage discussions belong over in Wiktionary where folks with the right skills, interests and lexical tools can more easily sort out the meanings and origins.

Options to fix the page here include:

  1. Expand the page with encyclopedic content - that is, content that goes well beyond the merely lexical.
  2. Redirect the page to a more general page on the appropriate sub-genre of slang.
  3. Replace the current contents with a soft-redirect to Wiktionary (usually done using the {{wi}} template).

Pending a better answer, I'm implementing option 3 for now. Rossami (talk) 04:08, 20 March 2008 (UTC)