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[edit] Disney's Hollywood Studios

Now that the name change is official, a lot of this discussion can go away. That said, we do need to make sure that any references to the likely re-theming of Mickey Avenue to Pixar (alternately Pixar Place, Pixar Studios, etc.) be mentioned in that context only--that it is likely, but not confirmed yet. I'm sure that announcement won't be made until closer to Toy Story Mania's opening date next spring.

As to when to move the article, it should wait until the name change actually occurs, i.e. January 2008, based on the announcement. Until that time, the park is still called the Disney-MGM Studios.

Lastly, can someone archive all the old name-change discussions, as (a) they are old and (b) they are now moot points? I'm learning my way around Wikipedia, but still don't know how to do certain things. Thanks.

McDoobAU93 18:58, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Can someone please change the page title from Disney-MGM Studios to Disney's Hollywood Studios? --Erik16 (talk) 05:10, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Somebody will move the page on January 7th, 2008, to coincide with Disney's official name switch. To do so sooner (while still an accurate change in anticipating future events) would be a bit premature. SpikeJones (talk) 14:25, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
Anyone can move the page, but I agree that it's too early. I don't think it's a big deal to move the page over so soon. --blm07 18:34, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
Way, way too early to move the page, considering the article itself says that Disney isn't changing the name until the first week of January. SpikeJones (talk) 14:40, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
You're right, moving the page over now was too early. I was simply going around and changing the park's title on various pages to prepare for the name change...and thank you to everybody who helped! DisneyParksFan (talk) 18:27, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
Changing all the text references "in preparation for..." now is also way too early. Wait until January 7th/8th when Disney starts using the name themselves first. Yes, I know that Samantha Brown has already used it in a TV show with Disney staffers, but that was, I'm sure, an editorial decision for a 2007/2008 program that is edited only once. SpikeJones (talk) 20:03, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
I guess what I did could be considered too early. But I only did it after the company was already referring to the park as 'Disney's Hollywoood Studios' threw various media references, like the Walt Disney World Website. Jan 7/8 is most likely when the park will acutally display the name is the park. DisneyParksFan (talk) 21:34, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Infobox inclusion of park rename

There is no need to indicate in the infobox that the park opened under a different name. This fact is already covered in the article text, and it is inconsistent with how other renamed items that have infoboxes in their articles are handled. SpikeJones (talk) 16:20, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

In my opinion, it should be there as it should match other Disney related articles. It shows it in the Epcot article and explains it in the opening paragraph too and noboby else is complaining about it either. Mike41691 (talk) 23:56, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
The material in the infobox should be short and to the point. Today the park's name is Disney's Hollywood Studios and it opened on May 1, 1989. Information about the park's evolution, including the name change, should be handled within the body of the article, where it can be discussed with more depth and context. —Whoville (talk) 00:02, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
I think it doesn't need to be in the infobox. The information is in the opening sentence, which is just fine. That goes for the other articles too. --blm07 00:32, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for pointing out that the Epcot article was also incorrect; it has since been updated. Cheers!SpikeJones (talk) 03:24, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Star Tours 2

I heard there replacign star tours with star tours 2 is this true anybody got soem news on this

The internet rumor mill continues to suggest a new version of the ride is on the way. The latest information comes from an interview with Anthony Daniels where he was quoted as saying he had already finished filming his segments for the new attraction. The most likely window for the appearance of ST 2 would be 2009, which (a) would be the park's 20th anniversary year and (b) a good way to counter the upcoming Wizarding World of Harry Potter at Islands of Adventure.
Keep in mind, this is all rumor. Until we get something verifiable, let's keep the discussion of the attraction in the talk pages. Opinions (or verified/published info)?
McDoobAU93 03:09, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Abc Theatre to be gone

Looks like sounds dangerous will be removed also with the building connected right next to it to amke room for a new attraction. So goodbye sounds dangerous Hopefull it wll be a chronicle s of Narnia attraction and not a wlakthrough a ride

Keep in mind that the ABC Theatre and the Sounds Dangerous theatre are actually two different buildings. The Hollywood Studios announcement said a new show was coming to the park to replace the current High School Musical Pep Rally, but did not say if it would literally replace it (i.e., another outdoor show) or would take place elsewhere in the park. The rumor sites have said that some work has taken place in the ABC Theatre lately, so maybe it's to get it ready for the new show. We'll see in the coming months.
McDoobAU93 03:09, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Power Rangers?

Where did the Power Rangers come from in this article? I know that Disney bought the show from Saban, but this is ridiculous. 71.111.232.40 20:20, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

There are a few people out there who believe that the listing of every meet-n-greet opportunity (and other non-attractions at the parks) that are listed on official park literature needs to be included here. SpikeJones 00:18, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
To be fair, it is noteworthy that Disney-MGM Studios has imported characters from outside its own intellectual property, as the other WDW parks use only Disney characters. I think the various items about in-park characters could be re-written and grouped together to merely mention them, not necessarily to say when/where they appear in the park. --McDoobAU93 14:31, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pixar Place

It looks like Pixar Place is the winner. If you look at the bottom of the Toy Story Mania attraction page on Walt Disney World's website (link in main article), it lists the attraction's location as "Pixar Place." That said, other attractions in the same area that are to remain open (the "Journey Into Narnia" movie exhibit and the "One Man's Dream" exhibit and theatre) are still shown as being on Mickey Avenue. We shouldn't rename the section until such time as Disney itself changes the name, but at least right now they're giving us a heads-up as to what it's going to be. --McDoobAU93 23:00, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Link use of Disney's Hollywood Studios

I've noticed people starting to change Disney-MGM Studios links to Disney's Hollywood Studios, I think this is a good idea since it's almost official and there are many more links to change. --blm07 18:40, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

They've started to use it on the Disney website here. I saw someone change it and reverted earlier, but then checked and saw that on the website, so yeah we might as well start changing links. I fixed a couple and will look for more later. Phydend (talk) 19:01, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] the Name Change section

The section begins with In 1988, MGM/UA filed a lawsuit against The Walt Disney Company claiming Disney violated a 1985 licensing agreement by operating a working movie and television studio at the Florida resort. In 1989, the theme park opened adjacent to the production facilities as the Disney-MGM Studios. First, the section needs a better lead-in, along the lines of Disney's Hollywood Studios opened in 1989 as Disney-MGM Studios. before leading to the 1988 reference. As for that portion, is the paragraph saying that there were studios at the resort before the park existed, or that the park's studios were built and working first before the rest of the park opened -- causing the lawsuit? There should be some explantatory text as to why MGM would file the lawsuit in the first place. Anyone with slightly more info or knows a way to restructure that opening paragraph would be most kind. SpikeJones (talk) 18:19, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

I'd argue that the first paragraph of the entire article covers the Disney's Hollywood Studios opened in 1989 as Disney-MGM Studios information. Why repeat the same information later on?
And yes, the details about MGM's lawsuit mean that Disney had working production facilities before the theme park opened. I think everything was part of the same master plan; the non-public studios just happened to open first. MGM's complaint was that it believed it had given Disney the right to use the MGM name for a theme park and that when Disney chose to open actual production facilities under the MGM name it was a violation of the original agreement. —Whoville (talk) 18:54, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
Me likey your changes. Thanks. I still think the the theme park opened adjacent to the production facilities sentence is vague, but what is there now is overall mucho better.SpikeJones (talk) 20:45, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] American Idol

Now that the attraction has been announced, it's being listed in the Backlot section of the park. Since it is next door to Sounds Dangerous!, that makes sense, but considering how much "Hollywood" factors into Idol (as in, "the Hollywood round"), what's the possibility of this show being annexed into Hollywood Boulevard? Any thoughts? --McDoobAU93 (talk) 22:42, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your question, but this is not a Disney forum for discussion of park changes. You may find answers to your questions over on any of the Disney fan-related sites out there. (that said, to answer your question directly, the name of the park itself is the reference you're looking for) SpikeJones (talk) 22:52, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
Actually, the point of the question was whether the attraction needs to be tied into any given section of the park within the context of this article. Since verifiability is key, the only verifiable facts are that Disney is constructing an American Idol attraction and that it's planned to open at the end of 2008. Therefore, should we tie the attraction to an area of the park that we cannot verify it will be in?
Further, we do not know the name of the attraction. Yes, it is tied to American Idol, but we don't know if it's going to be called that, or if Disney will embellish it a bit, like "American Idol Live!" or something like that. So, why did we change the article to say the name of the attraction was "American Idol" when we don't know that? The way the sentence was written (to say that Idol is inspiring the attraction) was more verifiable.McDoobAU93 (talk) 23:00, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
Apologies if your post was interpreted as a park-related question instead of as an article-related question. You weren't clear with what you were trying to say. The theatre that the attraction is said to be going in is already tied to a specific area of the park. That said, the crappy interactive map on the Disney website has a line right in the middle of the two buildings where Backlot and Hollywood Blvd meet, so it could go either way. Here's the kicker: the official press release doesn't say where the attraction would be going. I agree, it also doesn't say what the attraction will be called. What did we do when EE was in the process of being built? How was that handled on the AK page? SpikeJones (talk) 01:02, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
I took a look at Disney's map online, as well as thinking back a bit. Echo Lake used to be a section of the park, and that's where Superstar Television and Monster Sound Show (now Sounds Dangerous) were located. The Backlot section didn't start until you got to Star Tours and Indiana Jones. Disney annexed SD into Backlot, but it still shows the ATAS Hall of Fame on Hollywood Boulevard, and the Hall of Fame is between SD and the new AI theatre. Therefore, I have decided to be bold and move it to Hollywood Boulevard. Admittedly, this is no more or less definitive than what has been said so far. I'll check my most recent guidemap at home and see what it says, too. But right now, I'd wager dollars to donuts it's on Hollywood Boulevard, just because of the whole "Hollywood round" thing. As to Expedition Everest, I think even from Day 1 Disney said it would be in Asia, and really thematically it would be the only possible answer to the question, since it was adjacent to the other Asia attractions and a bridge away from DinoLand USA. I do not recall what Wikipedia had on it, as I didn't start contributing until well after it opened. Personally, I'm an advocate for a "future attractions" section, especially when the actual section the attraction is slated for is unclear. Thanks for the input, Spike! McDoobAU93 (talk) 01:22, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
I think you're reading too much into the "Hollywood" aspect of AI meaning that it should be put into the HB section of the park. Randy Jackson's line could be "You're going to Hollywood Studios, Dawg!" just as easily as anything else. I do find it odd that DHS has moved the Backlot up into the Echo Lake area, but that's a discussion for elsewhere. I think that until the specific location is clarified officially that the AI attraction should be pulled from a specific section of the park in the article and placed in its own area. I hate to create a "future attractions" section, as that leads to people placing rumors and other junk into the article. We all knew were EE was going, especially as the land clearing took place first - that made it easy to include it in the AK article in a specific section. Ooh, decisions, decisions. SpikeJones (talk) 03:43, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Orlando vs LBV vs Bay Lake

Moved to[1] Malpass93 (talk) 20:03, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bolding of original name of the theme park.

Please stop the reverting the bolding of the original name of this theme park. It common practice to bold historical / alternative names of articles. Examples include Houdini, the movie Se7en, the city Saint Petersburgor the theme park Gilroy Gardens. There is no reason not to bold Disney-MGM Studios in the opening paragraph. 04:59, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

See, providing examples in the discussion page is a much better way of handling this than saying "Bold of original name makes article better", which is what you had originally posted as an edit summary. If this is supposed to be WP policy, then in the articles I spot-checked earlier for places/facilities that had notable name changes, it is not one that is consistently implemented. If it is not a WP policy, then while there was nothing wrong with your addition of the bolding, there is also nothing wrong with my removing it. C'est la vie, yadda yadda. SpikeJones (talk) 05:26, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] What's The Official Logo?

What's the official logo: the one with Mickey in the 'o' in 'Studios' or the one without him?68DANNY2 (talk) 20:36, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

I think they're both "official" in the sense that Disney designed them. However, I'd probably lean towards the "Mickey-less" logo for readability's sake. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 21:02, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
Okay, I'll see if I can find a 'Mickey-less' logo so both of them can be posted as the logo. 68DANNY2 (talk) 21:30, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] PIXAR Place or PIXAR Studios

According to WDWmagic.com (http://www.wdwmagic.com/toystorymania.htm) there is a picture of a sign saying PIXAR Studios not PIXAR Place. What is the correct name of the area in the back of the park? Mike41691 (talk) 02:58, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Just because there is a sign in that vicinity that says "Pixar Studios", that doesn't mean that area isn't called "Pixar Place". And as a reminder, we can't use postings on message boards as valid, citable references here. SpikeJones (talk) 03:43, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
We have a verifiable source, Disney itself, stating that the area is called "Pixar Place." This of course does not say that they couldn't change their mind when we get closer to the opening of the attraction and the area, but as it stands now, the area is being called Pixar Place. The included citation in the article links to the attraction's official web page. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 11:45, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Pixar Place replacing Mickey Avenue?

The beginning of the Pixar Place section says, 'Pixar Place (previously Mickey Avenue)...' Does this mean that Pixar Place is replacing Mickey Avenue?? My understanding was that part of Mickey Avenue was being made into Pixar Place. 68DANNY2 (talk) 16:42, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

I went back and revised it to the way it was before. Officially, the area is still called Mickey Avenue, per the current park maps. This probably will change when the new maps showing Toy Story Mania! start appearing in May or June, and even then only the section immediately around TSM may change. The only thing that we know for sure is that TSM is in Pixar Place, as Disney says it is on its website (see the reference in this section of the article for link). The same website shows TSM's two nearest neighbors, the Studio Backlot Tour and the One Man's Dream exhibit, as being on Mickey Avenue (the Narnia exhibit is not listed right now, pending its "Prince Caspian" update).
I've spoken with Cast Members who have said that Pixar Place will have multiple attractions, but I'm not adding that here pending verifiability. The way it reads now is the way the park is now; Pixar Place will exist when TSM opens, and that is currently shown as "late May" on the website. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 17:12, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The American Idol Experience Location

I’ve been looking at the Disney’s Hollywood Studios map on the official homepage, which is shown below, to see where the new American Idol attraction would be. When I was looking at the map, I remembered that the attraction is going to be in the ABC Theatre. The ABC Theatre is on two lots; Hollywood Boulevard and the Streets Of America. Sounds Dangerous is the only attraction in the theatre that is on the Streets Of America; the rest of it is on Hollywood Boulevard. That said, the American Idol attraction is going to be on Hollywood Boulevard. I think that the attraction should be mentioned in the article, since it has been confirmed that this will be a future attraction. Until one of us finds out what its name will be, I feel that it should be referred to ‘the attraction that is based on the Fox reality show, American Idol’ in the article. If anyone disagrees with me, please post your comments. Also, unless another map is updated, I feel that the park map shown below should be the one used when finding the location of DHS attractions. 68DANNY2 (talk) 18:17, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

This is the map that I based the attraction's location on.
This is the map that I based the attraction's location on.

[edit] Pixar Place & Mickey Avenue

Mickey Avenue is not becoming Pixar Place. They are two seperate lots. I checked the DHS website today and the only attraction that is part of Pixar Place is Toy Story Midway Mania! If you go here, you will see that Pixar Place begins as soon as you walk past Walt Disney: One Man's Dream Attraction. Also, on WDW Magic, it says that there is a rumor going around saying that Soundstage One will be the next extension to Pixar Place. Can someone verify this? Thanks! 24.151.137.19 (talk) 17:02, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

There are rumors of a spinning coaster to occupy Soundstage 1, possibly a clone of Crush's Coaster from Walt Disney Studios Paris, or the same ride rethemed to another Pixar property, like "Cars." Target opening date of late 2009 or 2010 ... again, this is rumor, so it shouldn't go into the article yet. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 21:15, 4 June 2008 (UTC)