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[edit] Screenshot title
The title for the screenshot says "Diskeeper 2007", but diskeeper 10 is not 2007, I know that the brand new diskeeper version 11 is diskeeper 2007. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.20.87.111 (talk • contribs) 18:20, November 7, 2006 (UTC)
[edit] New Version
There's been a new version of Diskeeper created: version 10. YB 16:12, 11 December 2005 (UTC) See here.
- Hey, great, the article's been updated. Nice job, guys! Keep it up! - YB 16:38, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Scientology?
For the time being, I'm removing
- The company has ties to the Church of Scientology.
This could well be so, but should not be reinserted until a verifiable source is provided. Unlike the rest of the article, this cannot easily be verified by reference to the company's website. Dpbsmith (talk) 19:02, 20 October 2005 (UTC) Actually, a quick Google suggest there should be plenty of verifiable sources but I don't have the time to do anything about it now. Apparently in the 1990s company once denied technical support to Ciba-Geigy because they produce Ritalin... Dpbsmith (talk) 19:06, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
- Ok, I'll provide sources, such as the one you mentioned. Also, on their official website is a link to their CEO's website [1] which has an entire section about his being a member of the Church of Scientology (click on "Humanitarian"). Also, ex-employees has mentioned the company's Scientology related policies [2]. (Entheta 20:51, 20 October 2005 (UTC))
- Great update. Just added some internal wikilinks (Entheta 23:48, 20 October 2005 (UTC))
I fail to see how Scientology has any place in this article. It should be talking about the defragging engine, various advances, a history of the product, etc. How it relates to Mr. Hubbard does not have enough merit for 50% of the article. Aeolien 03:57, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
- It's of interest because it caused controversy in Germany, because they refused support to a company that manifactured a drug, and because several ex-employees have mentioned how the company owner's Scientology belief affects the company's policies. (Entheta 13:19, 4 December 2005 (UTC))
- It's of interest because it is at the core of Executive Software's business. It has been since they purchased Diskeeper from Rick Cadruvi (the author) back in the late 80s. It should be noted that Ciba-Geigy had made a legal purchase of Diskeeper and afterwards, Executive Software decided to 'withhold' support from them. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 208.67.104.4 (talk • contribs) 19:26, December 21, 2006 (UTC)
- I have removed one Scientology-related passage, which appeared twice, from the article. My suggestion is if you think there's not enough info on the Diskeeper product itself, that you expand that part of the article. (Entheta 13:30, 4 December 2005 (UTC))
I have removed the scientology part of this page, it has nothing to do with the program itself. --Chicito21154 19:24, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
As a casual user I found the scientology reference interesting and informative. It should definitely be kept in. 24.36.152.141 18:16, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
- It definitely should be kept out, unless scientology specifically influenced the development of this program, and if so then only kept in for the purpose of explaining that. Otherwise is a topic to write about on an article for the company, not it's products. We don't mention that Henry Ford was an anti-semite on a page about the Model-T. Someguy1221 03:13, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
It should defintely be kept back in. The tool is provisionally sold to other organizations based on that company's stand on issues deemed important to the Church of Scientology. That makes it part of their business model and therefore part of the company and the product. Granted, they have the right to sell or not sell me their products. However, I also have the same right based on a complete understanding of the product and the company. Make it a small reference with a for details, see the article on Executive Software (dba Diskeeper Corporation) and move on... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jrbirdman (talk • contribs) 19:55, March 13, 2007 (UTC)
- The connections with the Church of Scientology should be left in. The entire company is run based on the teachings of L. Ron Hubbard. They even have positions in the company that are direct parallels to Scientology org positions, such as "Ethics Officer", with a job description that includes such Scientology terms as "Knowledge Reports. The Diskeeper Corporation had a notable fight with the country of Germany due to its connections with Scientology. This should be reported on.Vivaldi (talk) 18:05, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
I know this will sound stupid, but why not make a page ABOUT THE BLOODY COMPANY!!! that is a perfectly legitimate place for this type of information, but a page about a the product should only contain information about said product. sheesh. 142.167.242.94 00:22, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
- Done. For those interested, I've created a page for the company at Diskeeper Corporation (and a redirect for Executive Software). I copied the scientology-related content to the new article. — EagleOne\Talk 02:33, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
I strongly agree that the controversy should at least be mentioned. Without the COS information the article reads like an infomercial. Many people are uncomfortable with the COS, and the CEO Craig Jensen is, by his own admission, a a longstanding member and volunteer minister. The same page talks about how the company headquarters is used for training executives in the "Hubbard Management System." Completely leaving out this information is wrong. The controversy is discussed on the corporate page, but at least a mention should be made here. --Gtcaz 09:21, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] NPOV
This article reads like one big advertisement for Diskeeper. The tone of the entire article needs to be changed to be more encyclopedic and it needs to be written in a NPOV. The corporation is notable for its connections with the Church of Scientology and its fight with the country of Germany who insisted that they didn't want software installed by a company that was so closely connected with the abusive and criminal cult of Scientology. Vivaldi (talk) 18:08, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
- What about adding the advert tag?
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This article or section is written like an advertisement. Please help rewrite this article from a neutral point of view. Mark blatant advertising which would require a fundamental rewrite in order to become encyclopedic for speedy deletion, using {{db-spam}}. (December 2007) |
- --Gtcaz 09:55, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
This article is SPAM, and should be incorporated into the article on Windows Disk Defragmenter. Donn Edwards 06:47, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
No it shouldn't, it has nothing to do with windows disk defragmenter anymore.... Yes the controbery topic should be brought back, but the rest of it is fine, it provides information about the program which is relavant to the article. 12:18, 20 June 2007 GMT (UTC)
[edit] AfD
Before you mark this article for deletion, please note that Diskeeper is often reviewed along with other notable defrag software in reputable, independent PC magazines. Some (but not all) of these articles are listed. RitaSkeeter 06:33, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] VAX Reference
From my understanding, the VAX was a Midrange ('refrigerator size' in the history) not a "Mainframe." Clicking on the Mainframe link there is an informative article, where VAX does not appear to be mentioned. There is a good article about 'minicomputers' (I did not find 'VAX' in that article either). VAX vrs. System36/AS400 was a great rivalry; How about an article: 'The Midrange Wars.' I would not be surprised if many people miss DEC. Maybe there could be a link to the Minicomputer in this article instead of 'Mainframe.' Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Courtautomation (talk • contribs) 23:31, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
