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Contents 1 Articles are linked too muliple times 2 Intelligent design and Teach the Controversy 3 Credible challenge

[edit] Articles are linked too muliple times

Is there any good reason that articles are be linked too multiple times? Per WP:GTL, that does not seem necessary? I removed a FEW but there still are a LOT more still in the article. I brought this up a while ago but here we go again. If this has aleready been addressed or there is a different consensus I apologize ahead of time. Cheers! --Tom 15:47, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

I did mention this under "See also section" in the last archives with not much comment. Anyways, --Tom 15:50, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

I believe the standard is that more than once per link per section is deemed excessive. Hrafn^Talk_Stalk 18:16, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Some people just don't know otherwise. It might be an idea to check the history in such cases and inform the editor responsible of the layout conventions. Richard001 (talk) 06:26, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Intelligent design and Teach the Controversy

Should be mentioned that the Discovery Institutes biggest and most intelligent front men, chicken out of the dover trial, as they knew it would be shown ID is just creationism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Abcdefghiabc (talk • contribs) 15:01, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

That seems like an unfair assessment to me. Having not read much about the trial, however, I am in little place to judge. Please avoid treating ID like it was a 'Freemason conspiracy.' It deserves an open debate just like every other scientific theory. -Master Imrahil 05:02, 11 April 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Master Imrahil (talk • contribs)

The majority of DI expert witnesses did withdraw from Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District under circumstances that indicate that either their reasons were spurious, or that they had a substantial hidden agenda that conflicted with their putative role as assisting the defence. ID is not a "scientific theory". The only legitimate forum for "open debate" of science is peer-reviewed scientific journals -- which ID advocates have avoided like the plague. Their assorted, equivocating and often contradictory claims have been thoroughly documented and debunked by the scientific community however, and their arguments have been found (without any exception that I know of to date) to be simple retreads of pre-existing Creationist canards. Hrafn^Talk_Stalk 06:18, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

I was at the trial and did my bit to assist the plaintiffs' attorneys. An interview with Bruce Chapman shows that there was top-down direction in 3/5ths of the DI participation jumping the TMLC ship in KvD:

Chapman said he asked Discovery fellows not to testify in the Dover case. But Scott Minnich, a microbiologist, and Michael Behe, a biochemistry professor, did and were asked in court who they thought the designer was. "The designer is in fact God," Behe testified.

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As for the "open question" thing, get back to me when a substantive and convincing reply is made to "Why Intelligent Design Fails" and "Scientists Confront Intelligent Design and Creationism". --Wesley R. Elsberry (talk) 02:32, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

I've included the Seattle Times Bruce Chapman admission in the Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District. Hrafn^Talk_Stalk 06:44, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Credible challenge

Is there actually a credible challenge that the Discovery Institute is a conservative thinktank? Or is somebody trying to make a WP:POINT? siℓℓy rabbit (talk) 01:25, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

It's funding comes from conservative (and in such cases arch-conservative) sources, it's founder's conversion to conservatism is well documented and (AFAIK) not in dispute, and its highest-profile project, ID, is most certainly conservative. Barring substantial contrary evidence, I think the label is safe. Hrafn^Talk_Stalk 02:13, 22 May 2008 (UTC)