Talk:Discovery (Daft Punk album)

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Discovery (Daft Punk album) article.
Article policies
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Albums, an attempt at building a useful resource on recordings from a variety of genres. If you would like to participate, visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion.
Start This article has been rated as Start-class on the quality scale.
??? This article has not yet received a rating on the importance scale.

The article has been rated for quality and/or importance but has no comments yet. If appropriate, please review the article and then leave comments here to identify the strengths and weaknesses of the article and what work it will need.

Contents

[edit] This album is connected!

[edit] Nightvision & I'm Not in Love

Was the stylistic similarity between "Nightvision" and 10cc's I'm Not in Love never mentioned? Rufous 17:53, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Other sampling

While searching around to listen to the real "More Spell on You" that Daft Punk sampled, I found other sites saying that Daft Punk had also sampled ELO's Evil Woman for Face to Face, and Cerrone's Supernature for Veridis Quo. The following are links to the sites stating thisStyle HipHop, DiszkovagasandInlounge, I'm sure there are various other sites, but I rather not list them all. I also have links to the actual song of ELO's Evil Womanand a sample of Cerrone's Supernature If this is a repeat of information and, or has already been discussed, please forgive me.--Taruru 04:47, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Face to Face/Evil Woman If I am correct then this is the exact same site that has been referenced for Aerodynamic--Taruru 23:20, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Please do NOT add links to full-length MP3 files. Just64helpin 18:27, 8 April 2007 (UTC)


Refrenced Song List

  • Eddie Johns: More Spell On You/One More Time
  • Sister Sledge: Il Macquillage Lady/Aerodynamic
  • George Duke: I Love You More/Digital Love
  • Edwin Birdsong: Cola Bottle Baby/Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger
  • The Imperials: Can You Imagine/Crescendolls
  • Barry Manilow: Who's Been Sleeping In My Bed/Superheroes
  • Cerrone: Supernature/Verdis Quo

Unreferenced

  • Oliver Cheatham: Get Down Saturday Night/Voyager
  • ELO: Evil Woman/Face to Face

Please do not add the bottom two songs onto the main article's sample list without a reliable resource

Can we keep this list for the people who still add the bottom 2 songs? and could I just add "previews" of the sampled songs on the main article? ——Taruru 04:07, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

The individual singles articles already have short clips of the sampled songs. Adding those to the Discovery article would make the graph more cluttered than it already is. Just64helpin 16:04, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I understandTaruru 23:47, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

I think the Evil Woman/Face to Face can be added. It's not a clear and obvious sample but as stated before, the same website that made the Eddie Johns/One More Time claim also made the ELO/Face to Face claim. I'm still iffy with the sample to be honest. Douglasr007 20:31, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Evil Woman Sample and some others, a better look at which part they sampled for Face to Face--Taruru 15:20, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
So, was the Anthem magazine that said him denying most of the samples on PalmsOut released yet? Just wondering--Taruru 02:31, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
I have no idea, to be honest. Douglasr007 03:11, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Verifying sources of sampling

How reliable is the Style Hip Hop link? After the claim that Bangalter made about sampling, I'm still suggesting that the samples not credited in Discovery to not be added for the moment. At least, until Bangalter states what samples are true and which ones aren't. As for the Veridis Quo sample, I found the source with the book I've been reading but to be honest, the source doesn't exactly point out the sample was used for "Veridis Quo". If anybody wants the passage of the statement. I would be glad to provide it. Douglasr007 01:51, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

The Anthem magazine source currently included just assumes that Bangalter is talking about the Palms Out blog. Specifically mentioning the blog in the Discovery article is somewhat misleading and non-notable. Just64helpin 17:02, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
I see that but since you worded the source as "half the list" as being incorrect, people are going to get confused as what they mean by half the list. The Palm Out Sounds does also indicate the Aerodynamic - Sister Sledge sample. I'm going to remove the samples that are not credited on the album as of for now. Douglasr007 00:27, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
Please do not interpret what half of the list "most likely" is without a source. That is O.R. Just64helpin (talk) 12:18, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Hey, I just wanted to ask if these sources for the following samples are ok, and if so, if they could be included on the table, but labeled something like "uncredited" or "sourced", since these two in particular are pretty clear insofar as actually being sampled: "Aerodynamic" || "Il Macquillage Lady" by Sister Sledge ref: http://www.samples.fr/blog/index.php/2006/10/11/43-daft-punk-aerodynamic ref: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abf-sYr2K3o "Face to Face" || "Evil Woman" by Electric Light Orchestra ref: http://www.samples.fr/blog/index.php/2006/11/19/49-daft-punk-face-to-face Anyone ok with this being added?^^65.12.233.213 22:27, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

We should clearly distinguish reported samples from those mentioned in the liner notes. Bangalter has stated that half of the songs reported as being sampled are false, so further additions to the table have the potential to be libellious, even if marked "uncredited". Just64helpin 18:59, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
We need to stop using the samples.fr link - it's not a valid source as it's a blog and anyone can add info. Douglasr007 00:19, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
Erm, the reason I used the samples.fr link is because it contains very specific samples of the songs that are supposedly sampled in the album. And I don't think evil woman warrants a mention any longer; it bears more of a stylistic resemblance than actual sampling. I don't understand how that could be unreliable or anyone could add to it. However, the "Il Macquillage Lady" riff is the most prominent non-credited samples in the album; if not the samples.fr link, what about the youtube video of someone reconstructing that part of Aerodynamic with Il Macquillage lady? They both even share a soft cowbell or other percussion every beat or so. Just want to make sure that one, if anything, could be added, with some sort of note of how it's presumed, or uncredited, or something to that effect.65.12.233.213 02:07, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
YouTube isn't considered a reliable source per WP:YOUTUBE and WP:V as its content is uploaded by users. Douglasr007 02:09, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
...wait, after reading those guidelines, that means that even though the samples.fr links and the youtube recreation of the opening riff from Aerodynamic using Il Maquillage Lady contain actual samples of specific moments in the song that correlate, they can not be referenced...because they're both not considered "verifiable resources"?65.12.233.213 02:12, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Video

This article should give reference to the film 'Interstella 5555: The 5tory of the 5ecret 5tar 5ystem' that has it's own article on wikipedia. This film is the visual realisation of Discovery and parts of it make up the videos for the songs on the albums. Can someone who is good at all this put in the link and stuff?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.36.108.249 (talk • contribs).

This is already in the article. Just64helpin 20:39, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pitchfork article

Before the edit wars start with this article (link here) - I am still asking to withhold on the addition of the other sample for these reasons:

  1. The Discovered album is being released on Rapture records. There is no involvement with Virgin, EMI, or Daft Trax on this at all.
  2. Nothing in the article mentions the involvement of Daft Punk.

Douglasr007 03:47, 17 October 2007 (UTC)