Talk:Dirt jumping
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someone sort out this page, it is only vaguely imformative.
20-24-26' wheels who gives a chicken its all the same, dirt jumping is a good sport sanctioned by none and thats the way it should be free.
Some trick definitions:
Tabletop = Whilst in the air turning the bike on its side to a 90' angle or further up. Whip = Kepping the front of your bike straight whilst flicking the back to one side No hander = Both hand off the handlebars Suicide = Similar to a no hander except hands are stretched back toboggan = one hand off touching the seat or top tube, on hand turning bars 90'. Tilt front down for extra style. no footer = both feet off pedals stepthrough = one foot taken off an put over top tube to other side of bike cancan = similar to stepthrough except done on both sides backflip = rotating bike completely backward until facing original angle/direction 360 = rotating the bike completley round on its self until facing original direction. tailwhip = spinning the back of your bike underneath you 360' with the handlebars remaining static.
Here is a short list of trick definitions, its hard to describe some of them so feel free to correct, i'll probably add a few more at some point. Joe.
[edit] I've re-written the article...
Apologies for the wait - exams appeared, and, briefly, i was under the impression they were more important than wikipedia. It won't happen again! ;) I've added Joe's definitions word-for word (i converted them to a table, but otherwise didn't change anything), so the same invitations to correct apply. We need someone who knows the history of DJ to write that up, too. Also, pics of jumps and/or tricks would come in handy. -- Lordandmaker 21:48, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
I think you should possible split this into a bmx and mtb specific pages. as this is obviously written from a mtb perspective hence things like ski jumps and twice as many noted mtb people and bmxers. that way people could see the differences and similaritys between.
[edit] gear ratios?
The page is looking really good now but the gear ratios are not accurate, race bmxs do tend to have 44;16 but just about any other bmx doesn't, in fact the 'fashion' now tends to be 'micro gearing'- a typical micro geared set up wuold be 28;9 a more average size would be about 36;13.
Mtb gearing is also starting to adopt micro gearing but through a range of sizes. typical gearing would be 36;16 through to 28;12. --Snowy Mcintosh 20:28, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
- Yeah, i'm aware of micro drive (i wrote the micro drive article) I've added Micro gear and Micro gearing as redirects to it.
- I don't ride BMX myself, so the gear ratios came from what i could remember of experience. Maybe we should put a few sizes in, micro drive and non-micro? -- Lordandmaker 20:32, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
Yeah good idea, its just that theres no definative size, so maybe the explanation needs to be simplified and 'typicall-ised' if you know what I mean, or a small section or somthing could just explain the ranges of gear ratios etc, and briefly explaining the benifits and disadvantages of differing ratios plus info about bigger wheels vs smaller wheels in terms of accelleration and top speed and how gearing effects this in different ways depending on wheel size. Or maybe that is too much for the dirt jump article, i dunno it leads to the whole wheel size debate thing which is quite oppinionated thoughout dirtjumping. but anyway what do you think?--Snowy Mcintosh 22:04, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
- It's fairly easy to be objective about wheel sizes and their pros and cons, i find. Could also briefly explain the benefits of higher and lower gears, too. I'm aiming at being as accurate as possible with the descriptions of the bikes, but making sure it makes it clear that this is the average/typical bike, rather than the only one you can ride. I used to dirt jump a 19" framed bike with cantis FFS...
- I'll write something up about gear ratios tomorrow most likely, and post it up here for your review? -- Lordandmaker 00:10, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
yeah that would be brilliant, i dont trust myself to write articles consistantly so really apprieciate the stuff if you know what i mean.--Snowy Mcintosh 22:18, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Relevance of Names
I have noticed a ever-growing list of names in the mountain bike dirt jumpers section. While these riders may be skilled in their own right, I am left questioning their impact or importance in mountain bike dirt jumping
Also, I noticed some of them are misspelled, but I am not sure of the extent. Check it please —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.231.128.254 (talk) 23:36, 10 January 2007 (UTC).
