Talk:Dir (clan)
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The title of this page is incorrect. 'Dir' is a clan. Title should simply be Dir.—the preceding comment is by S710 - 18:18, 5 June 2006: Please sign your posts!
- Yes, except Dir is a disambiguation page, because the name refers to many things. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 16:47, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Cleanup: Dir subclans
The "Dir subclans" section is becoming unwieldy. If we can establish some threshold of notability for inclusion, then I propose we pare down the list. Otherwise, I suggest we move the list to its own article. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 12:45, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
A very interesting and rare view about Somalia's Dir clan which has been at times ignored by historians. A major problem is the editors can't seem to agree on what to represent- the sub-clans, lineages and sub-lineages etc. I would suggest we just list the major subclans and their geographic locations.
[edit] Somali Subclans
I agree with moving all the articles about the subclans to the articles about the major clans to which they belong (Darod, Hawiye, Dir, Isaaq and the other three). Apart from the geographical distribution and famous persons there not much information.S710 16:44, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
I have read about Somali History and when I read the wealth of information presented by this article I was very impressed! As a matter of fact, I have spoken to numerous Somali experts who work for the U.N and they have verified most of the facts presented.
It should be noted the Dir clan is a very large ethnic group who inhabit in many parts of the Horn of Africa (Kenya North, DJibouti,Ethiopia, and all over Somali). Therefore, I would suggest the artical summarize the subclans of the Dir and distribution. I personally used this information while working in Somali and have found the details very rich.
[edit] Clans or families or persons
I am curious if these are all really subclans or families or persons. What is the use of the names of all these families in an encyclopedia. It begins to look like genealogy—The preceding unsigned comment was added by S710 (talk • contribs) 17:24, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Moved text from article
The following text was included without attribution. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 21:02, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
The Biimaal ( Gaadsan, Ismiin, Da’ud and Sa’ad) are a Somali ethnic group of about 2 million people who live mainly in the province of lower Shabelle, lower Jubba, Bakool and Gedo, large numbers also live in Kenya and Ethiopia. Their language, is Somalia, is a Hamatic language; more specifically, similar to the Arabic. The Biimaal Kingdom played a major role in Somali History during the 18th and 19th centuries. Under Italian colony, Biimaal people opposed against the invaders and severely fought against Italian troops. During that time thousands Biimalis lost their life to stop invaders to touch our soil. Today, they are the most numerous ethnic group in Somalia, settling the most populated area from Mogadishu to kismayo and as mentioned above in Gedo and Bakool region. However, they are not armed, not even ready to involve in this civil war. Origins The Biimaal were originally a major clan in what is today lower Shabelle, lower Jubba, Bakool and Gedo, founded. 1400-1900 Biimaal kingdoms were having a good trading with Arabs particularly Omanian and Yemenis. In the interpretation of Biimaal name is means Bin malik, which other cajami people named him Biimaal. Some people assume that the meaning of the name is water user, which is not close to the fact because Biimal has other Arabic name as I mentioned above. At that time, the land of Biimaal was occupied by many other tribes and clans during the civil war. Daarood tribes had migrated down Jubbaland in early time when they fled from the droughts in their lands and settled Biimalis lands and because the previous Darood president they planted their roots in biimalis land. Habargidir of Hawiye subclan also decided to claim lower shabelle, trying to settling every small village, but the complication faced them was that if three hundred thousands people how you can displace two million people. That mission has failed In 1900-1907, the Italian leaders tried many times to negotiate a land deal with Bimal king. In 1905 about 2000 Bimalis and 1000 Italian soldiers were killed when they attempted to destroy these obstacles against Italian interests which caused many Italian lives before. Though many biimalis armies got killed they still dominated to protect Somali shore. After a long bloody battle, the Italian leader sleeked alliance with other Somali tribes which finally destroyed Bimalis forces.
[edit] Cleanup
This article is a mess. I did as much as I could, but since I do not know much about the subject, I had difficulty doing anything. I beleive that if someone knew a lot about the subject, they would be able to help much more. Mynameisnotpj (talk) 12:23, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
