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[edit] I demand an explanation

How dare you revert changes on my own talk page, you rude little man. 82.11.249.205 19:23, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Sorry if I did - I'm monitoring page blankings and a few user talks might of slipped in by accident.
Although - it should be noted that clearing your page from warnings does sound quite suspicious ;) - Dinnerbone (Talk/Cont) 19:25, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for help with commas

I left a longer reply at User_talk:OWL#Reply_to_Dinnerbone.

--OWL 01:52, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Just ran another test to make sure my previous comment was correct - I'm not sure what I did when I wrote my last comment, but {{ #expr: }} doesn't support commas.
If I understand you right (Which I most likely don't, it's late and I'm tired ;P), you can't undo a formatted number (ie, 1,234 to 1234) without alot of work and time, but there is a way to test for formatted numbers. I just threw this together, it will test a number to see if it is formatted or not:
{{#ifeq:{{#expr:{{{number}}}}}|{{{number}}}|Not formatted|Formatted}}
(I made a user subpage to show this in action. Subpage located here)
It's better than having an error message each time, but it won't turn formatted numbers into plain numbers. - Dinnerbone (Talk/Cont) 02:32, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Super Bowl

I don't know what's up with that anon user, but we need to be careful about the 3 rv rule.--Farquaadhnchmn(Dungeon) 01:20, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User talk:71.250.191.187

Hi; your forbearance regarding this user is admirable, however what he said to you was a blockable offense, and if you had reported him (or her), it would have saved several other people chasing after and warning him for his subsequent vandalism. Not a criticism, just a comment. WP:PAIN is where you can report personal attacks. Anchoress 00:16, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Elizabeth I of England

Thank you for fixing my mistake, reverted to wrong version. Jεsushaceʃ (T @)

Oh and by the way, if you're looking for someone to help you beta test your vandal box, sing me up! Jεsushaceʃ (T @) 18:12, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
No problem =D And once I fix a major bug in the revert function, I'll drop you a message with the code to install VB. It's not much at the moment - only two main functions but it's only about a day old ;) - Dinnerbone (Talk/Cont) 18:16, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandal Box Beta Test

Hello, im interested in beta testing your Vandal Box. It sounds like a very useful tool and Im very excited to test it out for you. I have noticed that you said its still in the development stage and i regret to say i cant help you there. Im not that experienced with computing or programming but ill be willing to help any way i can. Xlegiofalco 23:15, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for applying to beta test =D I have a few things I have to finish before I can let anyone beta test it (mainly the the "request for speedy deletion" function) but I should have a working version tomorrow. The script only has two working features right now (Revert and Warn) so there isn't much to test out, but those two features alone can save quite a bit of time, and testing them can help save me having to go through the entire script when I have more features in.
As I said - I should have a working version you can install tomorrow (I'll drop you a message with the install script). But until then - I need to know what internet browser you use, and what version. - Dinnerbone (Talk/Cont) 23:29, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
As of right now I use Internet Explorer but Im seriously considering switching to Mozilla Firefox very soon. I figure the Internet Explorer might cause some problems; I also have an AOL Explorer Browser, which came with AIM Triton, but I dont use it much. Oh, I dont know exactly what version of Internet Explorer I have; I bought this laptop with Windows XP, im not sure if that can help you or not to figure what version i have. Xlegiofalco 23:47, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Ah, Internet Explorer - I think that some of my code is incompatible with Internet Explorer 6 (I have removed it from my computer so I can't find out myself). To find out your version I think you go to Help -> About Internet Explorer (it's usually the same for most programs). AOL explorer is basically Internet Explorer but with a few modifications, so that won't work if IE doesn't work. - Dinnerbone (Talk/Cont) 23:59, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Darn, I do have IE version 6. Im terribly sorry. I will go ahead and try to switch to Mozilla Firefox. Ill see if my computer is intact afterwards then ill be able to help you. Sorry for the delay.Xlegiofalco 00:49, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
No need to be sorry - using IE and telling me what doesn't work is a big help to me too, I don't just want people who use firefox to be able to use my script. - Dinnerbone (Talk/Cont) 00:59, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
K, so i did download Mozilla Firefox, but it was before i saw your last message. Ummm, i have both Firefox and Internet Explorer, should i uninstall one or the other, or is it ok to keep both for your testing? Xlegiofalco 22:35, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
If you can, use internet explorer and find out what doesn't work. But use firefox to test out the features and test it as normal. - Dinnerbone (Talk/Cont) 23:01, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandal Box Beta Test Synopsis

K, so after i copied and pasted the vandal box template into my monobook, everything at first started to look weird when i went to Show Preview. This was Yesterday (Thursday the 16) and at the time i was a little busy with english homework. SO i thought i would deal with it the next day, and to my surpise, it didnt look as bad as it did before. Before, there was the text of the code in the upper left hand corner. But now when i go to a pages history, next to a user's edit theres an "r" and a "w", and i took a screenshot of how it looks like in IE if you'd like. When i did find a vandal, i tried to use warn, but it took me here-User:Dinnerbone/Vandal box/vbox. I dunno what to do from here. I havent tried the "revert" function yet, ill need to find a vandalized page, but im pressed for time with projects in school. Ill check it on Sunday; its all very cool.

May i suggest on the warning templates to sorta cite what was the considered vandalized text (or deletion) and in the warning link to the corresponding wikipolicy of why its vandalism? K, lemme know how i may help you some more. Xlegiofalco 05:44, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

When you warn someone, it will take you to User:Dinnerbone/Vandal box/vbox and show a list of warning templates you can use on the user - you just click the name of the template and it will warn the person. If it doesn't show you a list of warning templates then I guess it doesn't work in IE.
The list of warning templates can be altered by you if you want to add or remove a template to use - see User talk:Dinnerbone/Vandal box/install for instructions on how to do this.
The default templates that are used in the script are: test, test2, test2b, test3, test4, blatant vandal and test4im.
And if you want to practise reverting pages, feel free to use my personal sandbox. - Dinnerbone (Talk/Cont) 12:14, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
I tested the revert feature on Veterans Day (all of my tests so far on Internet Explorer). It was really easy to revert the page back after the vandal removed most of the content. So far, VB works on Internet Explorer; I havent tried the warn feature yet. Is it futile to warn ISP addresses, or should i warn users only? It seems to me that the majority of vandalism comes from ISP addresses (to be honest, I have a tendency to review a page in my watchlist if it has been edited by a ISP address moreso than a user). In my opinion, most users who bother to get an userprofile tend to have good intentions. Of course there are those who try to vandalize using userprofiles but they fall into a very small percentage. Anyways, Ill go ahead to try to put the script on the Mozilla, see if that works any differently with what ive tested already. Xlegiofalco 04:15, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Warn doesn't work in IE - I tried it with my other computer running IE and it can't grab the vandals username to warn them (You may of noticed when you reverted it said "by Unknown" because it couldn't get the username). The warn function works on both users and IP addresses, theres no reason why it shouldn't (IP addresses use User:123.456.78.90 like normal people use User:Username).
I will try my hardest later to get this script to work in IE, but IE doesn't handle javascript objects like firefox so it will be tricky. For now use the script in Mozilla Firefox to get all of it's features. By the way - I have just updated the script with a BETA version, clear your cache to use this version. It has one new feature - report vandals to WP:AIV. - Dinnerbone (Talk/Cont) 15:39, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank for reverting vandal

Thank you for reverting the vandalism to my user page. Hu 14:38, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

thanks Dinnerbone:) someone -anon IP- changed my user page and it seems your bot reverted it correctlyAti7 09:18, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

No problem... but what bot? I don't run any bots, anything done by my account was me. But if you mean when I reverted there was a "vb" on the end of my summary - it stands for Vandal Box, a user script I'm working on. It seems quite a few people think I'm a bot... - Dinnerbone (Talk/Cont) 10:16, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
oooppss, I took that 'vb' as vandal bot instead of vandal box:) Ati7 10:23, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Heh, easy mistake. I guess I should change it to "vBox" instead of "VB", harder to mistake. Thanks for pointing out why you thought I was a bot - I would have missed that and lived wikipedia life marked as a bot =P - Dinnerbone (Talk/Cont) 10:29, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
now, I believe, wikis will take you as a real person:D thanks for help, by the way, when replying do you paste my answers to my page? or it happens by default Ati7 11:33, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
That's me doing that - like it says at the top of the user page, I prefer to respond on both user talk pages - it means you know when you get a reply, instead of checking the page every so often or adding it you your watch list. I copy your message onto your page aswel because if anyone else reads it then it looks like I'm talking to myself ;) - Dinnerbone (Talk/Cont) 15:36, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
I see, you are right actually, I happened to read some monologues in discussion pages that doesn't mean anything. I like the way you did:) By the way, is there a way to lock user page -but not discussion page-? at the end, user pages are not encyclopedia entry but private pages; only the user and admins must be able to modify Ati7 07:20, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
I think you should ask at WP:RPP. - Dinnerbone (Talk/Cont) 08:32, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome to VandalProof!

Thank you for your interest in VandalProof, Dinnerbone! You have now been added to the list of authorized users, so if you haven't already, simply download and install VandalProof from our main page. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me or any other moderator, or you can post a message on the discussion page. Betacommand (talk • contribs • Bot) 19:42, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Goessel, Kansas

My 7th Grade Writing class is trying to edit the Goessel, Kansas web page with more up to date entries. We have a variety of sub topics including local business, history, education, etc. The change was reverted the last time we tried to update. I can assure you all the info is researched and valid. Any chance we can get that change accepted? Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.245.178.236 (talk)

I suggest you read up on wikipedia and how it works before doing a class contribution, and then teaching your class how to use wikipedia sensibly before you get banned for vandalism (Even adding things like "Hi, josh!" is classed as vandalism).
You may find welcome helpful on how to contribute and not get reverted. I have undone my revert on the article (Goessel, Kansas).
Anything else you need help with just give me a message. Good luck on the article! - Dinnerbone (Talk/Cont) 20:44, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rewrites and Reverting edits...

Thank you for your assistance. For whatever reason, when I tried to access the article initially it appeared pre-"WikiProject City" restructure. It does seem ok now. If a reversion happens to an edit how does one revert it? Thanks Norcalal 19:52, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

See Help:Reverting. - Dinnerbone (Talk/Cont) 19:57, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Testing Vandalbox

If you're looking for a beta tester, I'm interested. Nwwaew(My talk page) 14:37, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] goessel, kansas

Could we get the new updates to the page to be un-reverted? Thanks!

You will have to talk to the person who reverted your edits about that - I beleive it was Hu12 - Dinnerbone (Talk/Cont) 21:04, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] VB tests

Please ignore any warning templates under this line, I am working on a script and the only person I can test the warning function on is myself ;)

If you want to leave me a message, please do so ABOVE this section. Thankyou - Dinnerbone (Talk/Cont) 15:50, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Testing Vandal Box

I was wondering if I could help test Vandal Box. --Split Infinity (talk) 02:01, 17 December 2006 (UTC)