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archive 1 Oct. 12, 2006 - Jan. 21, 2007 archive 2 Jan. 22 - Mar. 23, 2007 archive 3 Mar. 24 - Jun. 5, 2007 archive 4 Jun. 6 - Aug 19, 2007 archive 5 Aug. 19 - Oct. 23, 2007 archive 6 Oct. 24 - Dec. 12, 2007 archive 7 Dec. 13, 2007 - Mar. 2, 2008

Contents 1 Conversions 2 Steve Atkinson 3 Black Mo map 4 Bok question 5 Re: Confusion 6 McVeytown 7 Banner Help 8 Welcome back 9 Re: Infoboxes 10 It takes a Licking... 11 Black Moshannon State Park Historic Districts 12 WikiProject College football April 2008 Newsletter 13 Mid State Airport and Black Mo 14 Missing parks 15 Black Mo tweaks 16 Thanks! 17 Maps 18 Double DYK 19 Lafayette 20 Larrys List thanks 21 Black Mo questions 22 Question 23 Elevations 24 Butler 25 Deon Butler 26 Must see parks 27 Congratulations! 28 Black Mo thanks 29 Worlds End State Park 30 Thanks! 31 WikiProject North Carolina Newsletters 32 One golden arch 33 Link to... 34 WikiProject College football May 2008 Newsletter 35 WikiProject North Carolina May 2008 Newsletter 36 Timeline of prehistoric Scotland

[edit] Conversions

Woohoo, I am first to post here. I am trying to finish the List of tributaries of Larrys Creek. Depending how they count expansion, I may be able to get a DYK out of it (...that Larrys Creek in Lycoming County Pennslyvania has 42 named tributaries in its watershed, including one named "Little Dog Run"?). I need to reply at Oil Creek too, but am not sure if Caroig (who made the Geoboxes) is still active - need to check that. Glad you can access wiki at work, take care, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 17:39, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

• No it is tiny - basically all the reliable information available on it is already in the list (name, coordinates and elevation of source and mouth, tributary to Dog Run, and River Miles (distance from the mouth of Dog Run to the Mouth of LDR). Not enough there for anything but a micro stub on its own. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 17:54, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
  • The nomination is in. Now to try and finish the Black Mo map. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 21:52, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Steve Atkinson

• There is more than one Steve Atkinson and he is the Mayor of ECity. Foster lost to him in the last city election. So please stop changing it back because Foster is no longer the Mayor. Here is the Daily Advance article to prove it. http://www.dailyadvance.com/search/content/news/stories/2007/10/10/1010MayorRM.html statm5
• I appoligize. I wasnt aware that I was linking to anyone. I just thought I was changing the name. statm5 —Preceding comment was added at 21:43, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Black Mo map

The Black Mo map is up - let me know what you think. I did not label the roads and the day use district is too big to label here, but I will try to make the detail map of the three districts soon. I need to do some wikilinking and add some refs to the new tribs list, then I want to submit it to PR and FLC. Also want to get some feedback from WikiProject Rivers on it. Take care, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 02:56, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

• Glad you like it and that it is OK. The maps all seem to indicate that it is separate from the park, although this source here says it was transferred from state park and forest land. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 11:58, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Glad to hear there are more good Black Mo sources - will try to dig through the new history I have in the next few days. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 14:56, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
    • Hi Dinch, Is the Black Mo article stable - I was going to copyedit it, but wanted to wait until you were (mostly) done adding new stiff. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 16:05, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
      • I tweaked the lead - rearranged and expanded a bit - is it OK? WIll work on the rest - when do you want to submit for Peer Review? Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 22:37, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
        • I am fine whenver you want to take it to PR - am reading my way through the history - finally got first mention of Black Moshannon, opened in 1937 (also in the NRHP forms). Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 18:19, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
          • I fixed it for now - the problem was with the April PR page. It may take up to an hour to show up in the right place (geography) as a bot does that. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 19:14, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bok question

I have Francis Bok on my watchlist and saw the discussion on self-published sources, so I weighed in with my view on it. I think it might be useful to go to Wikiproject:Biography and ask about this there to see if they have any insight into the whole autobiography as source and identifying alleged slave-owners issue. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 01:29, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

PS I added the Bio project idea to the article talk page too. Creeks are easier than people ;-) Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 01:49, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

I tweaked the reason a bit - I do not think the name of the editor with whom there is a disagreement is usually included. Otherwise looks fine, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 03:21, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

I am sure it will get comments - just have to be patient. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 02:15, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

I took out the last Abdullah and a search of the article found no more of them. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 00:01, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

At User:Athaenara's suggestion I listed it at WP:BLP/N and there has been one response so far. Wait for a consensus, but the one thinks the name is OK if "According to Bok..." is used. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 14:56, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Bok is on my watchlist, no worries there. I am nowhere near done with copyedits on Black Mo (only through the second part of istory), but I'm glad what I've done so far looks OK. Have a good trip and Happy Easter! Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 17:38, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

(unindent) This edit seems OK to me but I thought you might want to check it when you get back. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 00:20, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for clarifying - you might want to make that clearer in the article too (or maybe I just missed it). Fairly busy IRL, but will finish Black Mo copyedits by Thursday. Good night, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 04:22, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Sorry I missed his forced conversion before - I think that the term is appropriate. I once read of a US Army general who baptized his troops with a fire hose before a battle (I think WW I). It might be useful to note in the article when Bok started using his original, given name again, and what his current religious status is (unless I missed those rereading just now). Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 10:34, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Glad my suggestions were helpful - I know you want to go for GA and perhaps even FA on this, so here are a couple more. The autobiography refs are all just to his book and do not include page numbers. This will probably be OK for GA, but my guess is it would not make it through FA. If you take it to FA, I would either: 1) make the first reference to the book complete (page number and full book info) and then have subsequent refs to the book have the page number and some abbreviated version (maybe just Bok and the title?) OR 2) follow the style in Joseph Priestley (name and page number as the ref, full book info at the end in a Bibliography section). I also note that the end quote (which I think predates your edits) is a mess in terms of references). Hope this helps, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 16:15, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

It looks very good - I fixed the ISBN for the book so it shows up. I was also reading the External link (review of Bok's book) - very interesting. When are you going to nominate it for GA? Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 19:19, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

The nomination is fine - just really slow. I can't review it as I have made substantial edits to it. Sorry, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 20:39, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Did you see Bok is being reviewed (at Wikipedia:Good_article_nominations)? Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 05:07, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations - just saw Bok made GA!!! Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 02:12, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Confusion

I must have been absent that day in Admin school ;-). While I don't doubt there are admins who know about this, I am not one of them. I may ask one who probably is to take a look... thanks, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 01:24, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

I am looking into it some more - I may weigh in on the debate too. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 01:28, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

OK, I had some questions and asked them at the MfD in question. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 01:47, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] McVeytown

Oops sorry about that. The first settler got there in about 1755 —Preceding unsigned comment added by CommanderWiki35 (talk • contribs) 17:33, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

I thought the McVeytown article could use a history section since the Lewistown article is so big. I figured the McVeytown article could have a bit more to it. :)--CommanderWiki35 (talk) 17:46, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!--CommanderWiki35 (talk) 17:50, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Banner Help

How did you get your banners to be all in one row, not effecting your text on your user page? Thats what I want mine to do.--CommanderWiki35 (talk) 17:57, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Yay! I finally figured out how to put userboxes on my page without messing anything up!--CommanderWiki35 (talk) 22:26, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome back

Welcome back - I am sorry to be so slow on Black Mo. I have a question though - I could swear I read somewhere that the current dam is actually from the 1950s (not the CCC 1930s dam). It also looks newer than 1930s. Did you read this anywhere? Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 03:03, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Ah, the NRHP form sounds right - probably the day use district. I really like the new Jordan Twp picture, by the way. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 04:07, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes, the NRHP form for the day use area has it as the fourth dam (beaver dam, saw mill pond dam, CCC dam, 1950s current dam). Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 10:49, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

I think I should be done with the PR copyedits today - sorry they have taken so long. Glad they look OK, I still need to add the other history stuff but that can go in during PR (if that is OK). Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 11:02, 29 March 2008 (UTC) PS Plus I have to make the detail map - is that OK to add in PR too?

I think I can add a brief Geology section - perhaps as the first subsection under ecology. What do you think? Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 23:09, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

OK, the copyedit is done submit to PR when you want. I am working on two new articles for DYK for April Fools. One is Black Moshannon State Park Historic Districts and the hook would be DYK ...that six latrines, a garage and a storage building at Black Moshannon State Park in Pennsylvania are listed on the National Register of Historic Places? The other hook will be for the West Rim Trail (being along the "Grand Canyon" and chosen by Outside Magazine as the best hike in Pennsylvania?). Anyway, do you want to work on the BMSP one too? Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 16:37, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Cool, I will try to add to it before the 1st. Good luck with Bok, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 17:10, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

(unindent)Following WP:Summary style, I added back some material on the 3 historic districts. Hope that is OK. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 20:07, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

• Yes, it is in the right place - I had asked about the idea there earlier, so just struck it diff. Off to make the West Rim Trail article. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 21:51, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Infoboxes

I got distracted from adding Infoboxes in Crawford County, but I do intend to finish. Warren County is also on my to-do list. Does it matter that I'm using Geoboxes instead of the Infobox Settlement? --​​​​D​​tbohrer​​​​^{talk•contribs} 18:41, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

I finished added geoboxes to Warren County. I can take another county for you. --​​​​D​​tbohrer​​​​^{talk•contribs} 03:24, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Sure I can do Mercer and Lawrence. Good luck with FAC. By the way I got bored and did Fulton County (did you see how empty that county is). --​​​​D​​tbohrer​​​​^{talk•contribs} 04:13, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

I can do more counties. Have you thought of trying to recruit people from WikiProject Pittsburgh to do Allegheny County? --​​​​D​​tbohrer​​​​^{talk•contribs} 00:24, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

That works. How far east should work up to? --​​​​D​​tbohrer​​​​^{talk•contribs} 00:50, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] It takes a Licking...

According to the USGS GNIS there are 10 creeks in Pennsylvania with "Licking" in their name, although that includes one "West Licking Creek', one "East Licking Creek" and one "Little Licking Creek'. See here. My guess is that most Licking Creeks are named for salt licks. "Mahoning" is Lenape for salt lick, so if you count all those (plus Sinnemahoning = stony salt like), you'd have a lot more. I checked there are 5 creeks with Mahoning in the name here and 7 with Sinnemahoning here. Off to geologize. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 00:48, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Black Moshannon State Park Historic Districts

On 1 April 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Black Moshannon State Park Historic Districts, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--howcheng {chat} 04:03, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Congrats! I have a screen shot of it on the Main Page if you didn't see it. When do you want to submit the park to PR? Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 04:47, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

We made the 2008 April Fools listing as one of three DYKs mentioned! See Wikipedia:April_fools#April_fools_2008 Woohoo! Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 12:29, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I had the idea for the West Rim Trail hook April 1, 2007. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 16:56, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject College football April 2008 Newsletter

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[edit] Mid State Airport and Black Mo

I scanned the whole 1984 state parks history and found some more data. It confirms the CCC and 1937 opening date, says the name was made official in 1954, gives the 1970 park acreage as 3518, says there were major developments at the park between 1971 and 1980 (no more details sadly), confirms the private firm taking over ski operations in 1980, and gives the 1984 acreage as 3481.

The current acreage in the article and on the DCNR web page is 3394, so the acreage of the park has decreased from 3518 in 1970, to 3481 in 1984, to 3394 today (a decrease of 124 acres).

I also found info on the airport - it was founded as "Black Moshannon Airport" in 1946 and switched to the "Mid-State Airport" name on April 4, 1962.[1] The airport today is a Keystone Opportunity Zone and has an area of 484 acres.[2] It was created from state forest and state park lands, and there is a law protecting both the park and forest from further airport expansion.[3]

The only place I can see from the map where land would go from the park is to the airport - what do you think? What should we add to the article? Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 01:31, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

• I will think about it a few days and only add the minimum (if anything). Thanks for your support on the list too - I tweaked the format (took out the header as it was not used in the other FLCs). Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 02:36, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

• • Ben MacDui is going to look at the park PR. I have not heard back on the inquiry we discussed. Would you want to try for a double DYK on the airport and the KOZ? Something like DYK...that Mid-State Regional Airport is a Keystone Opportunity Zone to promote economic growth, but, to protect the Pennsylvania state park and forest it was formed from, cannot expand by law? The airport is big enough, but the KOZ would need a bit more text (I can work on it too, if you want). Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 21:51, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
    • The criteria are at Wikipedia:Did_you_know#Selection_criteria. Basically at least 1500 characters without infoboxes, refs, images (so I think I need to expand the airport too), can't be marked as a stub, and the cited hook has to have an inline ref (footnote). I still think I can expand the airport and looking at the KOZ ref, I think it can also be expanded. Let me know if I can help. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 00:30, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
      • I have to archive Peer review then will do some copyedits - I checked and it is way over the character limit, so good job expanding it. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 00:10, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
        • I have to expand the airport more - not quite big enough without the infobox and refs. I can nominate it if you want - should I include a park pic? Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 00:27, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
          • • OK, the nom is in with a pic of the bog with the forest in the background. The hook is just under 200 characters. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 03:16, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

(unindent)Thanks for all your work on KOZ and Black Mo SP - what do you think of the alternate hook at DYK? Also glad you are OK with my Archbald addition. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 20:06, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Missing parks

Will do - thanks for the catches and for merging the islands with Allegheny Islands SP (there's another challenge to get to GA someday). I will also ask for a volunteer to look at the Black Mo PR, do you think we should list it on the PA and PA talk pages too? Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 00:48, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

PS I forgot to thank you for listing me on the PR - I think Black Mo has been your show and was glad to help a little. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 00:49, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

• I think I fixed them, although the chart is updated by a bot so it will take several days to show. I would use the Announcements section for Penna. I will ask a PR volunteer or two. Thanks for your compliments too, we make a good team. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 01:25, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Black Mo tweaks

Hi Dinch, I asked two volunteers for PR help. I also thought of asking Ben MacDui (although I owe him a review already), Daniel Case, and Dtbohrer. I reread the Presque Isle FAC and noticed we have a history gap here too (after the CCC there is just the ski area). What would you think of renaming the "Former ski resort" section to something like "Modern era and ski resort"? Then it could have the current ski resort info in it, plus move the new dam there (1950s), mention the airport there (1946 and 1962), the official name (1957). It could also mention the NRHP historic districts (1987), Natural Area (1994), Allegheny Front Trail (1990s), and perhaps move the 20 must-see parks here too (it is here in Presque Isle).

I also have a sentence or two on kayaking on Black Mo creek to add, and a book on Hikes in PA that has some info to add. Does this sound like a plan? Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 14:44, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

• Your tweaks look good - I need to do some PRs and will work on the park more tonight too. I contacted GNIS twice for the four park questions. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 01:50, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

• • You beat me to the punch on KOZ. I asked Ben MacDui to take a look too. Thanks, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 20:18, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

• • • I would like it if we got one more PR - just worried we are missing something that will bite us in FAC. I also need to make the districts map. Should be able to that in the next 2 days or so. I was wondering if I should add the modern structures to the history - ranger station, several cabins, have to check what else. I would add them after the major developments between 1971 and 1980.[13] sentence and could reference the DCNR park map. Agree Larrys list is going well - it is the first candidate for featured status I did not make a new map for (though I added a bunch of names to the old map and one trib blue line). I also have not made a new article for it, but will make one on River miles. Take a Bok break and look at it in a month or two if you need the time and then decide on FAC. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 23:08, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
      • I have finally got the Historic District Base map uploaded and it is at Talk:Black Moshannon State Park - I think I should crop it to focus more on the districts, but will wait to see what you think. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 23:24, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

(unindent) I added the map to the Historic Districts section and moved the Pavilion 4 picture down to the Friends of BMSP section, plus added a dam pic and a lake pic. Are they OK? Does it all look OK? Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 00:13, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

• Thanks - I tried the Pavilion 4 pic in Geology at first, but it looked too crowded. Ben MacDui is quite busy with an FLC, so not sure when he will get to the PR. I may ask Dtbohrer to take a look. Have a fun weekend, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 02:24, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Hopefully my replies on Ben MacDui's PR comments were OK - revert or tweak as needed. I knew you were busy this weekend, so I stepped in. Take care, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 03:43, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
    • Glad you thought they were OK. Is it OK if I make addressing the PR points a lower priority for today (knowing me I will still work on them some) and maybe not even working on them until tomorrow? I am fairly busy IRL and the "no reply PR" backlog is huge, so I may knock out some quick reviews there with my time available. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 20:32, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
      • Thanks - did I fix the italics problem correctly? I also thought of using no wiki tags if you wanted two ' caracters in there. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 20:43, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

[edit] Maps

Thanks for finding the error on the Venango Co map - I will fix that first, then archive PR, then work on the Black Mo Historic District map. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 00:55, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

OK, the error is fixed though you may have to WP:BYC to see it. I agree the list looks like its chances are good. Still have to make a stub for tradition, also should make a new map, I'll count the BMSP NRHP as this one. Thanks again, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 01:28, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Double DYK

On 10 April 2008, Did you know? was updated with facts from the articles Mid-State Regional Airport, and Keystone Opportunity Zone , which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Bencherlite^Talk 10:13, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

• Woohoo! Woohoo! (Doble woohoo for double DYK) Congrats and thanks! Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 12:02, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Lafayette

Do you realize that General Lafayette simply re-directs to Gilbert du Motier, marquis de La Fayette. This makes your edits to the various places named for the general moot. I am sure that your point is valid. Perhaps this issue should be taken up at Talk:Gilbert_du_Motier,_marquis_de_La_Fayette.

Dincher (talk) 02:38, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Thankyou Dincher, I'm not sure who made that link name. I found it works by mistake. I realize that General Lafayette points to the same incorrectly named site. However, even though the title block contains false, genealogical revisionism, the scholarship and references on that page tell more of the real name story. I strongly urge you, until we can find a way to correct the current target title block, you continue to use General Lafayette and not the "Marquis" (error) AND "La Fayette" (2 word error) version to prevent more ignorant naming practices not honorable to the General. If you know how to correct this title block, make it happen!

Also, you may have noticed how many of the current talk page comments prove ignorance in that they really don't know Lafayette.

I appreciate your helpful comments and guidance.

Squiretuck (talk) 09:16, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Larrys List thanks

Thanks - I am unfortuantley having some internet issues and have not been on Wiki for a few hours. Not sure how long this will last - will try to archive PR while I can, but wanted to say thanks - formal thank spam to follow. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 03:27, 14 April 2008 (UTC)\

	Thanks for your support and comments - List of tributaries of Larrys Creek made featured list! Take care, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 20:13, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Black Mo questions

I have a couple questions on the Black Mo copy edit and removing excess links. So far I have just checked all the links, now I need to remove duplicates. As I see it, I do not count links in the Infobox (Geobox). The first question is do you want one link per article or at most two - two would be lead plus the second time it is linked. The second question is can I move the area into the first sentence - most of the PA state park articles give the area in the lead - either "..is an X acre PA state park in.." (Presque Isle does it this way) or "is a PA state park on X acres in..". Black Mo gives the area as a short second sentence. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 02:30, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

I finally sat down with a red pen and made some copyedits on paper - should be able to type them in within the next few hours and then you could submit the nomination (if you are OK with that). I want to add the area of the lake (250 acres) and correct the area of the airport (500 acres - the KOZ is apparently slightly smaller). Sorry to be so slow, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 23:19, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Something's come up - can't work more tonight. CHeck your email - sorryRuhrfisch _><>°^° 00:47, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Nominate it - all my fixes are in, thanks Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 12:25, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Looks good, I added the word extensive before Peer Review, thanks for nominating it - were my copyedits OK? Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 20:32, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

I also just thanked the Peer reviewers on the FAC page - have a good one. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 20:47, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

We have one support (VerruckteDan). I figure any time you go through FAC there are going to be some changes to the article - if it gets a support, all the better ;-) Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 23:33, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

(unindent) What would you think of putting the green waterlillies back in, but in the Geology section? The caption could refer to the underlying sandstone helping to form the lake and bog? Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 02:40, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

The pic is back in - feel free to tweak the caption. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 02:47, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

OK, we'll see if it sticks. Good night Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 02:56, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

I will work on expanding Native American history and geology. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 20:29, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

I have looked at some library catalogs and will go get some books and hope to find something. The settlers at the time of the Big Runaway were no further west than modern Lock Haven. I am not sure where the Native warriors came from - at least some came from the north (New York state) Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 01:11, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks - glad you like it and hope it meets the "actionable request". I can maybe work on Geology tomorrow - am a bit tired of composing for now. I reread Moni3's comments and think we need to distribute the animal and bird lists a bit - I have an idea how to do this, if you want me to. Just let me know - off to PR. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 02:30, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

(unindent) I may wait until morning to do it - glad to see Dank55 supports now, although I am not sure how this will count since it is a qualified support. Still much better than an oppose! Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 03:09, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

• I made some minor changes - will check prose again tomorrow, but seems OK. I am calling it a night, take care Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 03:38, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Thanks. I like the CCC expansion. The lumber is OK, but has a few issues. It is out of chronological order (starts 1800s with the road, then back to Penn in 1600s), duplicates wikilinks, and is not consistent on species capitlaization. I did not have a chance to read it closely and will be busy for several hours before I can look at it some more Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 20:17, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
    • I did some copyedits on Lumber - tried to avoid repeating words too much (esp. Pennsylvania) and removed the statement that the lumber industry had reached what is now BMSP by the American Revolution because it is contradicted later in the article (the opening of the Phila-Erie Pike, by 1821) and by the settlement dates for Rush Twp and Philipsburg. Feel free to retweak as needed ;-) Off to Ecology then hopefully Geology Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 14:32, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
      • Thanks, I have thought of replacing the second "Pennsylvania" in this with "the state": Lumber became one of the leading industries in Pennsylvania.[12] Trees were used to furnish fuel to heat homes, tannin for the many tanneries that were spread throughout Pennsylvania, and wood for construction, furniture, and barrel making. Large areas of forest were harvested by colliers to fire iron furnaces. Rifle stocks and shingles were made from Pennsylvania timber,... Otherwise 3 uses of PA in 3 sentences - what do you think? I also like your Gas essay. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 01:57, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
        • I was not planning on spending as much time on Black Mo today as I did - are my changes OK? Your edits look OK to me. I agree - what most people do at BMSP are the things under Recreation - cabins, picnics, hikes, boating, fishing, hunting and bird watching. I doubt many people visit the parks and say "200 plus million years ago the Appalachian orogeny raised the whole Allegheny Plateau and folded the Ridge-and-Valley Appalachians" (What I have to write next). Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 22:26, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

(unindent) OK, thanks and good night. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 02:51, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

I think we are up to seven and no opposes, phew. Next, FA for Upper Pine Bottom (mine) and Sand Bridge (yours) - race you! Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 00:32, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

FA would be very difficult, but I think we already have a pretty good start on Geology and Native American History for almost any park in the West Branch basin, so I think I can get UPB to GA. My crazy idea is a WP:Featured topic - the park list is already FL, then all 120 parks would all have to be either FA or GA or, for really minor parks like Rush or the two mentioned, just assessed as good as possible. Somewhat more practical might be the 21 must see parks as a topic (3 of 21 are already either FA or, GA). The minimum is three articles in a topic, so if I can get the Cogan House Covered Bridge to GA (easy) or FA (perhaps) then there could be a Larrys Creek topic. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 00:53, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Question

I have a question. How do you add the things on your user page that say, for example "This user is a fan of the pittsburgh steelers" (Incase you haven't noticed, I'm a new user.Cssiitcic (talk) 19:43, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Elevations

Hello. I noticed you have reverted several edits relating to town elevations by 24.115.148.30 (talk). I almost reverted them earlier, but on investigating I saw that some of the new numbers seemed to better agree with the a google earth view of the communities than did the existing elevations. I've asked the user to provide a source, but I believe the new values to be more accurate. Perhaps the existing numbers represent a low/high/mean elevation within a geographic area, rather than a representative elevation of the town's developed areas. -- Tcncv (talk) 21:26, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Butler

What is your issue with the addition of Mr Zehfuss, a prominent lawyer in the Denver Co area? Please explain, as the addition is clearly within the rules of appropriate information. Biointheknow —Preceding unsigned comment added by Biointheknow (talk • contribs) 16:50, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Deon Butler

Nice pic of Deon Butler. Did you get anymore pics of the other players? Dincher (talk) 02:39, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! Did you make it to the game? They offered unprecedented access to the players this year. I've also posted my photo of Jay Alford this afternoon. I have photos of quite a few others who don't have articles yet, but will no doubt will once the season starts: Stephfon Green, Andrew Szczerba, Dan Lawlor, Chima Okoli, Tyrell Sales, Cedric Jeffries, Bani Gbadyu, Rich Ohrnberger, Dennis Landolt and a couple others. —xanderer (talk) 05:46, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Must see parks

Here are the 21 "Twenty Must See Parks":

Black Moshannon State Park Canoe Creek State Park Cherry Springs State Park Colton Point State Park Cook Forest State Park Delaware Canal State Park Greenwood Furnace State Park

Hickory Run State Park Hyner View State Park Jennings Environmental Education Center Kinzua Bridge State Park Leonard Harrison State Park McConnells Mill State Park Ohiopyle State Park

Oil Creek State Park Presque Isle State Park Pymatuning State Park Raccoon Creek State Park Ricketts Glen State Park Trough Creek State Park Worlds End State Park

Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 02:50, 24 April 2008 (UTC) I think Worlds End, Ricketts Glen, Colton Point, Leonard Harrison would be fairly easy to get to FA, and Cherry Springs and Hyner View would be harder to get beyond GA. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 02:58, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

• I was just commenting on the West Branch watershed ones above. I think all the rest would be potential FAs. Enjoy the break - FAC is quiet finally Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 20:20, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Congratulations!

Woo-hoo! Great work and thanks for letting me know, now it is two down, only 118 to go ;-) Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 00:11, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

• I took the liberty of adding the {{maintained}} template to Black Mo and the Sullivan County list Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 14:57, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

My congrats as well. I thought the two of you might be doing or planning to do the whole state system. You are certainly covering some of my favorite places. Finetooth (talk) 17:00, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

• • Enjoy the peewee game - I am also somewhat busy in real life, but will probably do a peer review or two tonight. Take care buddy, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 00:47, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

		Pennsylvania State Parks Groundhog Award, with Featured Article Star
		This award is given with respect and admiration to Dincher for his continuing devotion to Pennsylvania state park articles and on the occasion of his second Featured Article for Black Moshannon State Park. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 16:30, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Black Mo thanks

	Thanks for your all your work and letting me help - Black Moshannon State Park made featured article! Take care, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 01:26, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Worlds End State Park

My understanding is that if it is in the Susquehanna watershed and in PA, as far as we know the Susquehannocks were there too (which is why I picked out those 5 or so articles in the 21 must see). The problem is that the Susquehannocks lost their war with the Iroquois about 1675 and disappeared, and the Europeans didn't do much in the area until decades later (although some came through the area, like Etienne Brule, and John Smith of Jamestown met some Susquehannocks near the mouth of the Susquehanna). Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 01:52, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

• I would like to expand the bridge a bit and nominate it for GA and see if anyone thinks it detailed enough for FA. I am also a bit burnt out or maybe just tired right now. I liked how we worked on Black Mo together and am glad to help / work on Worlds End. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 02:10, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the barnstar - who do you want to give Groundhogs to? I thought everyone that made substantive comments in PR and FAC, what do you think? Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 17:21, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
    • I am about to go for a little hike, so I can do it later (or you can do it now) whichever. Also Micheal Devore deserves one for all the typos. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 17:47, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
      • Thanks for distributing the groundhogs - the Shawnee were also on the Loyalsock (according to Donehoo) Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 21:39, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

I love the photoshopped FA star on the groundhog :) - Dan Dank55 (talk)(mistakes) 18:28, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for the groundhog. Unfortunately, groundhogs always eat my pumpkins halfway through the growing season, so I usually end up shooting them. I think this one can stay, thought. ;) Also, congratulation on the FA! Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 19:25, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Ok, good to know. :) Sorry for the late response; I didn't even see you on my talk page. Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 01:41, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you from me, as well! It's not everyday you see woodland creatures with a bit of bling. :) Congrats on the FA, great job done. María (habla conmigo) 19:59, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks to Ruhrfisch and you for the groundhog. Congrats on another FA. --​​​​D​​tbohrer​​​​^{talk•contribs} 23:23, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject North Carolina Newsletters

[edit] One golden arch

Thanks, I appreciate the kind words. Good to be back, in a more sedate and limited capacity but back nonetheless. IvoShandor (talk) 01:37, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Link to...

Comment on Ruhrfisch's talk page.

[edit] WikiProject College football May 2008 Newsletter

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[edit] WikiProject North Carolina May 2008 Newsletter

NEWSLETTER
Issue One • May 2008 • About the Newsletter
News Cape Lookout Lighthouse Hello WikiProject North Carolina members! A few of us at the The Newsroom Team decided to get together and re-energize the project, through these newsletters. This newsletter is hopefully the first of many to come. We want this project to be active in creating and expanding articles related to our state. If you're a current or former resident of the state, we hope that you will help spread the knowledge of how much there is to learn about North Carolina. A great way to expand new articles is by keeping track of the new articles list. Please add any new NC-related articles or older ones you come across that have not been tagged with the project banner. When you notice an article has been added to the list, read over it and check for citations, grammatical errors, and spelling. If you've written a NC-related article in the past 5 days, read the requirements for Did you know... and add your article to the DYK nomination list. It might be chosen for the Main Page! If you see a new member added to the project list, a great idea would be to leave them a welcome message on their talk page. Show them we notice new members and that we want them to become active participants. Congratulations to the editors who helped promote List of tallest buildings in Charlotte, List of North Carolina hurricanes (1900–1949), List of North Carolina hurricanes (1950–1979), and List of North Carolina birds to featured lists. Let's try to get a few more articles to featured status. North Carolina would be a great (and obvious) choice. Congratulations to the editors of Climate of North Carolina as well. This article was recently promoted to Good article status. A few suggestions for articles we can work on for GA are Raleigh, North Carolina, Charlotte, North Carolina, Greensboro, North Carolina, Geography of North Carolina, and University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. If you're a history buff, check out List of Registered Historic Places in North Carolina. There are many articles to be written and your help would be greatly appreciated. If you have any questions in regards to the project, feel free to contact someone from The Newsroom Team. Thanks for all of your hard work and happy editing!
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[edit] Timeline of prehistoric Scotland

		The WikiProject Scotland Award of Excellence
		This award is given with many thanks to Dincher for assistance in helping Timeline of prehistoric Scotland to become a Featured List from Ben MacDui, 4 May 2008.