Talk:Dimmer

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[edit] Proof a rehostat will be dissipating 25% of the loads rating at maximum

(i think the statement above is right but i need to go through the proof to convince myself before i add it)

find turning point to find point of maximum power

Pdimmer = VdimmerI

I=\frac{V_{supply}}{R_{dimmer}+R_{load}}

V_{dimmer}=V_{supply}\frac{R_{dimmer}}{R_{dimmer}+R_{load}}

P_{dimmer}=V_{supply}\frac{R_{dimmer}}{R_{dimmer}+R_{load}}\frac{V_{supply}}{R_{dimmer}+R_{load}}

P_{dimmer}=V_{supply}^2\frac{R_{dimmer}}{({R_{dimmer}+R_{load})}^2}

P_{dimmer}=V_{supply}^2\left(\frac{R_{dimmer}+R_{load}}{({R_{dimmer}+R_{load})}^2}-\frac{R_{load}}{({R_{dimmer}+R_{load})}^2}\right)

P_{dimmer}=V_{supply}^2\left(\frac{1}{R_{dimmer}+R_{load}}-\frac{R_{load}}{({R_{dimmer}+R_{load})}^2}\right)

\frac{dP_{dimmer}}{dR_{dimmer}}=V_{supply}^2\left(-\frac{1}{(R_{dimmer}+R_{load})^2}--2\frac{R_{load}}{({R_{dimmer}+R_{load})}^3}\right)=0

\frac{1}{(R_{dimmer}+R_{load})^2}=2\frac{R_{load}}{({R_{dimmer}+R_{load})}^3}

Rdimmer + Rload = 2Rload

Rdimmer = Rload

therefore both loads are running at half the supply voltage therefore the load is running at 25% of its rated power and the rehostat is also running at 25% of the loads rated power.

The equations don't exactly hold for real-world incandescent light bulbs, though, because the tungsten filament radically changes its electrical resistance as it heats (over a sometime 10:1 ratio!).
Atlant 12:55, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rheostat dimmer?

That alleged "rheostat dimmer" in the photograph looks a lot more like a motor-driven, two pole variable autotransformer dimmer to me. Those windings look like copper, not nichrome.

Atlant 17:54, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, I was always told by my teacher that this was a rheostat, but I guess he could be wrong. I believe the image could still be used somewhere in this article. JWGreen 00:48, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
Oh, no problem with using the image -- it's perfectly valid for what we're trying to illustrate. I was just quibling about the nomenclature. I just looked at the high-resolution version of the image and there's no doubt that those are autotransformers; thanks for making the change in the article!
Atlant 13:52, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Variable autotransformers are generally known as variacs.

Rheostat dimmers which looked somewhat similar may have been used a _very_ long time ago. Tabby 22:33, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Something in ?Spainish?

I removed the following from the start of the article. I don't think it's relevant, and even if it is, it's in the wrong language: "HOLA SOY PAPAS NATAS DE ELCTRONICA 2006 "4 AÑO c" Bryson430 13:01, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Iknow a small amout of spanish, it means word for for word literaly "Hello this is potatoes notes of electronics" KeepOnTruckin 21:36, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mistake

There is a mistake on the dimmer's schematic. I build it and you have to add a 20k resistor between the scr's gate and the negative to stop the sinking current from the zener diode. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.37.33.106 (talk • contribs).

It would depend on how electrically leaky your zener diode is versus how easily-triggered your SCR is.
Atlant 12:59, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Efficiency

Article might benefit from an explanation of the effect of dimmers on lighting energy efficiency, or efficacy. I'll add a link to an article that explains this and more Tabby 01:42, 30 March 2007 (UTC)