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[edit] Rams and Ive
While I think it is true, I don't think it is appropriate to say "Rams' designs have been very influential on Jonathan Ive's" designs. There is only a direct connection between the iPhone calc and Rams calculator, and even then you can't say it was done by Ive. I'm going to add "speculated" until an explicit link between the two is made. Thoughts? aerotheque (talk) 07:15, 9 February 2008 (UTC)