Talk:Diet of Worms
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Someone do a write-up? This was an important historical event. --Dante Alighieri 16:22 Dec 3, 2002 (UTC)
I've read about the Diet of Worms before, in connection with the Reformation (in Encyclopaedia Brittanica), but it was referred to as the Imperial Diet of Worms. It caused me no end of headscratching as, without knowing the specific meaning of the word 'diet', it could be interpreted very differently. But anyway, I digress. Is the use of the word 'Imperial' important and something that should be mentioned here? cferrero 17:31 Mar 12, 2003 (UTC)
Cool name. Don't laugh at me. - SmartBee
A diet of worms?!! Uggh!! - Just kidding. Just kidding. :) ------
- Yeah, you'd probably lose some weight if you did that for a few months.
Jondel 04:15, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)
[edit] errrrrrrr
So do we have to delete the edict of worms now? SiniStar
- I wouldn't delete, but how about redirecting it and merging it to Diet of Worms ? UNLESS there were other Edicts of Worms that do not apply to Martin Luther/Diet of Worms???. Paradiso 23:59, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Okay - Can we put the real diet of worms back now, please.
[edit] about to edit
I am going to edit this line: This argument struck at the heart of the Roman Catholic Church's teachings that the Church is the pillar and foundation of the truth, and not Scripture. The way it is currently written might lead one to believe the Church sees itself as superceding scripture. Any objections to my edit? DKK
umm, didn't the church see itself as superceding Scripture (which is precisely what the problem was)?
- No objection. My understanding is that the Catholic Church saw and sees tradition as unfolding the teachings of the Scripture. One Catholic told me it was like a rosebud opening. The whole rose is there, but when it opens it is more beautiful and fragrant. The argument Lutherans and Protestants make in reply is "yes, but not everything in the tradition of the Church was in that rose when it grew. 8-) What Luther challenged most was the notion of Papal and Concilliar authority. For Luther, it was Scripture alone, not the Scripture seen through the Church's interpretation. The attack on the authority of the church was what moved the Pope and the Emperor to act, and the Lutheran princes to defend. --CTSWyneken 19:58, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
- Both argument (and the claim itself) are opinion, and not appropriate for wiki. If you wish to include it, find a quote (and correctly cite it as a quote) from a reputable academic source on the subject, who could be expected to give an authoritative opinion on the matter. Rotovia (talk) 22:38, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Defence?
Should the British or American spelling be used? Defence of Defense? Does Wikipedia have an official preference?
- In an article like this both are acceptable, so long as the usage is consistent --Mmartins 09:05, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
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- It's a matter of European history, so the spelling from a European language should do.
[edit] Simpifying Luther article
Several of us are editing the Martin Luther article to simpify it and thought this text would helpful here. Please feel free to adjust it.
--CTSWyneken 12:07, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
- It's "simplifying". With an L. -- Apocryphite
[edit] disappeared?
I would suggest rewording the part where it says "during his return to Wittenburg he disappeared". It is explained later in the article what is meant, but it would be nice to be more specific at this point.
[edit] Vandalism Target
Number 2 & 3 are the same. Number 6 is similar to them. Anonymous__Anonymous 12:06, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
- Actually, 2 is pretty hilarious. I wonder if it's included in WP:BJAODN? Fuzzform (talk) 20:14, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Pronunciation guide needed
I've been told it is pronounced not like the little wiggling fishbait, but rather more like "VAHRMS." Would some knowledgable person find a way to put it in the article with correct phonetic pronunciation? Edison 05:16, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
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- I've been living in Worms now for 5 years. The residents of Worms pride themselves on speaking a special dialect known as "Wormserblatt" or Wormser Speak. Wormserblatt is very glutteral and is quite different from dialects found in Mannheim (High German) ...long answer to your question is that it is pronounced "Vohrms" I perceive the difference between your VAHRMS and my VOHRMS is that it's less nasal and more back of the throat. Hope this helps. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by TurboManiacal (talk • contribs) 13:58, 9 February 2007 (UTC).
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[edit] eating worms
did they actually eat worms?
[edit] merger of Edict of Worms article
I was reading a document that referred to the Edict of Worms without mentioning the Diet. It was nice that Wikipedia had an article on this. I ask that the community re-consider merging/deleting the article on Edict of Worms and keep it as an article in its own right. Bounton 02:51, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
cheese steak jimmy's 66.66.144.28 00:52, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
The first sentence should be corrected. The Edict is not the Reichstag. The Reichstag was the assembly. The Edict was the pronouncement that was made there, no? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sejtam (talk • contribs) 13:30, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] The Church's Demand
Information on this page regarding the Church's demand seems inaccurate, at least according to the main article on the Exsurge Domine. This article says
"The previous year, Pope Leo X had issued the Papal bull Exsurge Domine, demanding that Luther retract forty-one of his 95 theses and other writings related to or written by him that criticised the Church."
The article on Exsurge Domine says
"While the bull did not directly condemn all the points of Luther's doctrines, it did specifically demand that Luther retract 41 errors (some drawn from his 95 theses, some from other writings or sayings attributed to him) within sixty days of its publication in neighboring regions to Saxony."
The latter claims that the 41 "errors" were not each from the 95 theses, but spread across his various works. The former implies something different. Clarification is necessary, whichever the true case is. 69.134.147.146 21:56, 31 October 2007 (UTC)DD
[edit] Pronunciation of "Diet of Worms"
Indeed, the English pronunciation of this conjures up a less-than-appetizing image.
Thankfully, in the German language, the second vowel is the one pronounced. So "diet" is pronounced "deet." The letter 'W' in German is pronounced 'V' ... therefore no more eating of worms. :) 69.148.120.237 (talk) 23:43, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Getting rid of the capital A in the MAy in the categories (bottom of page)
I just noticed this and I have no idea how to get rid of it. Just telling people that its there —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.166.2.43 (talk) 09:12, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] This Article needs help!
The intro talks claims Martin Luther consumed a literal "diet of (earth)worms." Half the article is in German.This needs some attention bad, and I'm not the one to do it.Iamme2008 (talk) 11:52, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
What on earth are you talking about? Troll? Sejtam (talk) 04:25, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
It has been changed now, but it had been terribly vandalized.Iamme2008 (talk) 11:52, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Small consistency error
The article says that: "When the counselor put the same questions to Luther, he said: "They are all mine, but as for the second question, they are not all of one sort." Luther went on to place the writings into three categories". Unfortunately the question referenced isn't anywhere to be found. I don't think that I can edit it properly myself, hopefully someone else can. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Smors (talk • contribs) 18:59, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] REDIRECT Edict of Worms
- My edit summary is pretty clear:
{{redirectstohere|'''Edict of Worms'''}} ++[[template:expert|History or Theology Expert help needed]] MISSING COVERAGE OF [[Edict of Worms]] (redirect target)
