Talk:Die Walküre

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Contents 1 Comment 2 The Name of the Sword 3 Orchestration 4 Renaming

[edit] Comment

Someone correctly observed that the article on Die Walküre should have the umlaut in the article's title, but made the mistake of doing it with a cut and paste rather than with "Rename this article" as described in Wikipedia:How to rename (move) a page. That has been fixed, but sorry, your user name got lost in the shuffle. --Jerzy 08:22, 2004 Jan 12 (UTC)

Well, as the entry "Die Walküre" previously had two edits on it (both from February 2003) and moving the article was not allowed. Hence having to resort to cut and paste. -- Mic 08:54, Jan 12, 2004 (UTC)

If the previous edits are significant enough to retain (not the case here IIRC), then a developer can do a merger. But there is no reason to sacrifice a coherant history of the text in order to keep track of the sequence of redirects.

The situation you describe does indeed disallow the move w/o the intervention of a sysop/admin, which in my experience can hold you up as much as a half hour.

Let's review the documentation on this, including the path from Main Page, in which your input on what about the docs led you that direction should be especially valuable. (I don't want you to feel bad; this isn't peculiar to you!) And thanks for calling attention to the feasibility, and the neglect, of the title change. --Jerzy 13:43, 2004 Jan 12 (UTC)

[edit] The Name of the Sword

I have changed the name of the sword, in the place where it is introduced, from Balmung (Nibelungenlied) to Nothung (The Ring). As "Not" means emergency or need in German, the following words ("which evokes the dire need, for a weapon against Hunding") now make more sense, and it agrees with two further references below to Nothung.--John 11:41, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Orchestration

Would it be possible to include a mention of the orchestra used for this music drama (and other works by Wagner)? Does anyone know how large the orchestras were for Wagner's music dramas?

[edit] Renaming

Per Wikipedia guidelines of giving an article its most common name in English (WP:UE), is there support to move this article to The Valkyrie? --Elonka 19:10, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

For operas, books, etc. the convention is that the English translation is only used when it is most commonly known in translation. See Wikipedia:Naming conventions (operas) and also Wikipedia:WikiProject Opera. Fireplace 19:25, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the pointer (I don't do much opera work on Wikipedia). I agree though, it makes sense to title the article based on whatever the most common performance title is. --Elonka 20:10, 3 July 2006 (UTC)