Talk:Diary of a Camper

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Reviewers for quality and/or importance have left the following comments: [edit]
With respect to importance, I marked this as High because, while the video is clearly a landmark in machinima, it's hasn't quite achieved the pervasiveness of the genre as a whole or of some of the more popular productions. However, because it is mentioned in passing regularly, I wouldn't oppose strenuously if someone wanted to bump this to Top importance. — TKD::Talk 02:22, 31 August 2006 (UTC)


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[edit] Resources

I searched google for "Diary of a Camper" and turned up some potentially useful links. I picked out the ones that were from more professional sources (IE, not forums, etc.). I haven't really read through them yet (I'll probably do that later), but here they are for anyone else who wants to contribute. Some of them, like the first one, only really make passing mention of the film.

--Drat (Talk) 08:31, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] URF or the Rangers?

[1] seems to imply that United Ranger Films wasn't yet a separate entity when Diary was released. — TKD::Talk 04:26, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Good point. Although URF OFFICIALLY broke away from the Rangers clan a good while after their early movies, the people involved were part of the Rangers, and were the same as those who would later form URF. In the .zip for the Ranger Gone Bad 3 preview, the main man behind the Ranger films explains the whole story, which is a vital reference. I think I'll host it on my site and link to it, but machinima.com has the .zip here: http://www.machinima.com/films.php?id=102 It's tricky to decide what to do in this situation though, as I believe most of the early films were released under the banner of United Ranger Films, even if they were not separate. I suggest labelling them all as URF movies, but explaining on the URF page - as I've tried to - that URF was part of the Rangers clan when they were made. Sound good? --Psyklax 08:58, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
I think that's reasonable, and, given the sequence of events as stated in the docs accompanying RGB3, URF would be unambiguous and complete. Thanks. — TKD::Talk 09:15, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
This film, Diary, also begins with 'United Ranger Films presents...', as I watched it yesterday, so that clears up the idea that URF always existed in some form or another, whether as part of the Rangers clan or not. --Psyklax 18:18, 5 August 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Request for help

I am currently translating this excellent article to Spanish. I am not able to figure out what Real name established in Salen (note 15) means. ¿What is Salen? Thanks (and congratulations, this is good stuff). Chabacano 05:20, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Ah, that means that the real name (as opposed to the online pseudonym, which is more common) of the person mentioned in the text is established in the reference material by Salen (Katie Salen, that is), listed in the full "References" section below. It's footnoting shorthand; sorry for the confusion. Thanks for the translation work and the compliments. — TKD::Talk 10:35, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
By the way, I just took a look at the article in Spanish. Not sure what the conventions are there, but don't forget to translate the full "References" section over; that's what all of the notes refer to for full citation info. — TKD::Talk 10:45, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Ok, thanks :) I was thinking that maybe he was established in Salen (a city) o something alike. And yes, I have to translate the References section, the traslation is not finished yet. --Chabacano 13:53, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Release descrepancy

This article states that DoaC was released on Oct 26, 1996, approximately 1 month after the "full commercial release of Quake". However, Quake's article states that the game was released on June 22, 1996, over 4 months before the release of DoaC... I don't know what's right, but it sure doesn't look like that is.Hezekiah957 05:49, 9 April 2007 (UTC)Hezekiah957

Thanks for bringing up the discrepancy. I double-checked my sources; Lowood did indeed say both "barely a month after the commercial release of the game" and "October 1996". Given that the October 26, 1996 date has been corroborated by other soutrces, and that I can't determine which release Lowood was in fact referring to, I've decided to remove that clause forom the article ;it wasn't that important of a matter to begin with. Quake was indeed released in stages — the shareware release preceded the first full version — but, unless Lowood is referring to something even later, I, upon review, don't see the dates matching up either. Thanks again for pointing this out. — TKD::Talk 06:07, 9 April 2007 (UTC)