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[edit] Diane Abbott

Copied from User talk:JK the unwise#Diane Abbott

A bit arbitrary, your edit! Not sure it's not you who's op-eding. Observations and reportage are encyclopaedia-OK in bios. I never said that I agreed with her point about schools for her son.--Farsee50 20:49, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Example from what you wrote; "The ostensibly-improbable chemistry between Portillo and Abbott, both deemed mavericks respectively from the right and left but able to relate to each other gently and humorously on TV" this is very conversational in style and appears to be original research (OR), i.e. it appears that you have watched the show that that this is what you beleive to be true. While it may indeed be true (I haven't sen the show) it is OR all the same. This is even more true of the sentence "On occasions when other politicians replace them, the easy style of the show rarely works and even Neil seems less affable"
Also, "Her decision to send her son to private school was widly seen as hypocritica ... She defended it robustly", according to whom was her defence robust this looks like POV to me.
I didn't mean to put the op ed link in the article that was an editing error.
I do not think that my Rv of your text was arbitary but maybe it was a bit harsh, I'll try to rework you text to something we can both agree on.--JK the unwise 17:16, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Seems like an OK and supportable compromise re the school issue at least till someone locates other sourcesd material. Re the chemistry, the issue is about the appeal of the TV programme (and of that kind of political discussion) rather than simply how well she and Potillo relate - and is what reviewers and, presumably, ratings have noted by contrast with the bear-pit of party politics. Will try to substantiate--Farsee50 17:51, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

I like the most recent edit (not from me - maybe from someone who understand it better) which get the facts right and the exchange with Michael Rosen allows everyone to read what she says: she said it was indefensible (which is honest and not hypocritical) and then explains (and defends) her decision.--Farsee50 19:46, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

I agree that its better pared back but it makes me laugh (this is op ed) if she said its indefensible and then trys to defend it :-) --JK the unwise 09:41, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lady MacDuff

Lady MacDuff?!?--Coroebus 21:33, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CLS Stuff

I reverted an edit that took out references to her son going to the CLS: the stuff was referenced and NPOV so I put it back. Driller thriller 23:39, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Photo

Perhaps a clearer Front-Facing photo can be found? Matthewfelgate 18:16, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Quote Request

Can anyone find the quote from Abbott in which she complained of seeing too many "blond haired, blue eyed" nurses in the NHS? 86.17.246.75 01:10, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

no, but i've got a good one from her past: "We are not interested in reforming the police, the armed services, judiciary and monarchy, we are about dismantling them and replacing them with our own machinery of class rule" If only diane felt the same way today... -- james — The preceding comment was added 07:09, 15 August 2006.
The Telegraph Thursday 28 November 1996 Nick Cooper 23:08, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Response to Jk

I agree that its better pared back but it makes me laugh (this is op ed) if she said its indefensible and then trys to defend it

I don't think she was trying to defend the specific decison that she made but was talking about the issue in general:

"What you are not entitled to do is to completely dismiss the issue of what is happening to black boys in the British education system."

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D.Abbott is said to be black in the article. Three races seem to be involved. Indo-Pakistani ancestors are a possibility. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.11.37.209 (talk) 15:42, 9 February 2008 (UTC)