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Contents 1 High school 2 Rewrite 3 Kimberly? 4 Image 5 WrestleMania V 6 Picking the name Dallas 7 Court Battle 8 Diamond Dream 9 Fair use rationale for Image:DDPWCWring.jpg 10 loser years 11 Changes 12 New Picture 13 Unsourced comment - Trademarks 14 Requested move 14.1 Survey 14.2 Discussion 15 Dee Snyder (Snider) 16 Redundant? 17 Statistics section 18 Wikiquote link 19 roh

[edit] High school

DDP attended St Joseph's High School, now known as Monsignor Donovan High School, in Toms River, NJ. I think this should be added in somewhere, but I am not sure where since we really don't have much background info on him in the article. AriGold 21:44, 10 January 2006 (UTC) Sorry but my dad went to high school with him and that is a lie.

¤I talked personally to DDP and YES he did go to St. Joseph's HS but was thrown out. It's been added to the article.--Iadiedee28 23:26, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rewrite

I re-writ the beginning of the article. Wikipedia isn't a chance to show of your fucking writing skills, people, nor is it a place to advertise your website. If that power-slam link was in any way related to the article in question, list it as a source.

Excuse you for the language. This is not the place for foul language.

The inclusion of that paragraph was by request from DDP himself. It's sad that you have a problem with it. Since the page is ABOUT HIM if he asks for something to be included it SHOULD BE. I'm currently rewriting the article by combining various sources including ongoing phone conversations with DDP that he will verify if necessary.

Since Page holds the Jorgensen site in high regard and I cited it within the paragraph (which you incorrectly removed) and at the end of the article in "citations" there shouldn't have been a problem with its' inclusion. I will not make any changes until after I am done rewording the text from the site and including information from his book, articles and conversations as I verify, or am told is unfounded, facts and happenings in his life and career.

My reasoning is sound. The text should be reverted to what was there before your improper deletion. I'm signing my ID which you did not do. Please go to my talk page if you wish to continue this dispute. --Iadiedee28 00:31, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

1) Stop being a pussy. I didn't ask to be excused. 2) Stop trying to hint that you know DDP. On the rare chance that you do, this changes nothing; wikipedia articles still aren't a place to show off creative writing skills, and first hand information cannot be added; outside sources are needed to verify any information given. 3) The citation was fucked up. It did not link as it was supposed to, and the beginning was "signed" by the person who wrote it. Lettuceclock 02:46, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kimberly?

Does anyone know if Page and Kimberly are together or not? Just wondering. (MgHoneyBee 21:15, 23 March 2006 (UTC))

Not, but they're still friends, or so I read. Don^MEGĂ60645^Talk|Contribs 13:45, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image

There is a PD photo of him here.--Fallout boy 04:22, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WrestleMania V

Does anyone think this bit of trivia is worth putting in? The Cadillac that DDP drove Rhythm & Blues to the ring in was a prop at the nightclub that DDP managed in Ft Myers, FL, called "Norma Jean's" --Smart Mark Greene 07:17, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Yea I dont see any reason why it should not be in there.

Eh. Wiki seems to be saying that articles with "trivia" sections should have said sections deleted, and the info implemented into the main page. However, this is still a "work in progress", meaning that I think for now it's absolutely fine. I say keep it. Lettuceclock 02:48, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Picking the name Dallas

The following line is completely false."The name "Dallas" is derived from his love of the Dallas Cowboys, despite having grown up near the home of the New York Giants and New York Jets." He grew up nowhere near the home of the Giants and Jets, as they both played in New York City at the time he was growing up. There are a lot of Dallas Cowboys fans in the area where he grew up, as there was no team in Jersey & at the time, a lot of people in NJ despised Philadelphia.--Hndsmepete 21:11, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

If you read his book, Positively Page, or listened to, watched or read any recent interviews you would know that YES his nickname of "Dallas" was derived from his love of the Dallas Cowboys. I asked him directly about this statement and he verified that the statement is indeed TRUE.--Iadiedee28 23:29, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

And if you read his post, you would realize that he was arguing that Dallas lived nowhere near the Giants/Jets stadium, as those of us with knowledge of football/geography can tell you.

[edit] Court Battle

Did Dallas Page win? What happened with his trademark dispute with Jay Z? --Screwball23 ^talk 16:14, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Page won but is back in litigation at this time. --Iadiedee28 06:08, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Diamond Dream

I remember watching a match of DDP's toward the end of WCW where he performed a spinning DDT much like Mickie James' Finisher. Tony Schiavone or Mike Tenay then said that DDP called the move the Diamond Dream. I would add it to his list but I am not 100% sure on this, but I'm pretty sure it was a move of his toward the end of his WCW career. Anyone remember this? 216.47.153.16 16:13, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

You know, I also remember something like that, but I can't find a single source. Maybe it was Kanyon =/ Lettuceclock 02:49, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

• Spoke with DDP in email. Verified it is a modified Halo DDT/Flying DDT as stated in "Positively Page" Added to wrestling facts with appropriate links. --Iadiedee28 17:18, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:DDPWCWring.jpg

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[edit] loser years

Why is there no info on his life, and how he came from the gutter to reclaim himself. Or so ive heard. Portillo 08:07, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Page has asked the same question. With discussions on the phone, net and his books it's slowly being added Portillo. Keep checking back. --Iadiedee28 23:54, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Changes

Editing Wiki per request of DDP. Adding in early, pre-wrestling, section, citations and edit of inaccurate or untrue statements. Will use the Power Slam site by Jan Jorgensen, Direct quotes from DDP, his books, audio book and dvd's. --Iadiedee28 13:22, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New Picture

I think we should change the picture of him to something more recent, or maybe add some into the article. If any can find a recent picture thats Public Domain, I'd be abliged Lettuceclock 20:05, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

• I disagree. The article is mostly about his wrestling career and he released this one under "Creative Commons-attribute-share alike" to be for use on Wiki since it is one of the best pictures released during his wrestling career. He released others under the same licensing for uploading to the body of the article. I just haven't had time to upload them yet. And yes, Lettuceclock, I *do* know him personally. --Iadiedee28 20:24, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

• • I added more recent photos toward the bottom in the Motivational Speaker, Fitness Guru & Acting areas. Do they fit in ok? --Iadiedee28 02:48, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Unsourced comment - Trademarks

Should this remain?:

• "According to one source, the settlement included a monetary fee that was paid by Jay-Z to Page. In exchange for the fee, Page agreed to drop all claims in regards to the infringement suit. Each party paid their own legal fees."

The matter has been settled but this statement is "According to one source..." Who is that source? There are orders from the judge so "it is settled" is all that is able to be released. How is this a valid "source"? I cannot figure out who put it up or I'd ask them directly.

Input please. --Iadiedee28 04:24, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Requested move

Dallas Page → Diamond Dallas Page — Dallas Page isn't his Ring Name, maybe a nickname but not a Ring Name. His ring name is Diamond Dallas Page. It should be moved to fit his Ring name as others do. —Hornetman16 ^(talk) 19:20, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dee Snyder (Snider)

DDP is NOT related in any way to this person. They are very good friends but not related. This has been removed a few times from this article. Iadiedee28 00:09, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Redundant?

I was reading the following and it's nothing but redudant.

He started managing in March 1988, where he handled Badd Company (Paul Diamond and Pat Tanaka), a team he lead to the AWA World Tag Team Championship on March 19. During his time in the AWA, Page also managed Col. DeBeers and Madusa. Page served as a manager in 1988 in the American Wrestling Association (AWA), where he managed the tag team of Badd Company, who were often accompanied by a pair of female valets known as the "Diamond Dolls".

In the third paragrah of pages early years it repeats what the second paragraph states. That being he managed Badd Company. I think that section needs to be re-worked. Mr. C.C. 05:37, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

I hope the rework is acceptable to everyone. Also cleaned up the repetitive use of "Page".--Iadiedee28 08:51, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Looks good. Mr. C.C. 08:16, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Statistics section

It appears we have vandals that have nothing better to do than tamper with the statistics in this article. Is there any way to lock the "Statistics" area so that it can not be altered again? By the "Statistics" section I mean the box that contains DDP's photo as well as stats of his career that have all been referenced. I believe the information there is complete and accurate. I've personally undone vandal changes at least three times.
Can the users IP be banned if the area can not be locked. The IP on the past two changes was 124.183.133.79 Iadiedee28 15:09, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikiquote link

Is there a way to change the wikiquote link as at the moment it links to a search page with DDP's quotes being the third result down? Probably not a major worry right now (the article needs copy-editing to make it read more like an encyclopedia and less like a fan bio) but its a minor niggle and those are the ones that bother me the most Agent452 23:04, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Actually, there are no quotes by DDP on Wikiquote. There are quotes about him on various other people's articles at Wikiquote. The link in DDP's Wikipedia article to Wikiquote links to a list of all the Wikiquote articles where quotes about DDP can be found, and is therefore links to the correct link on Wikiquote. So until he gets his own quote page, the link currently points to the correct page. Hope this helps! --Naha|^(talk) 01:51, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Whats this then? http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Dallas_Page —Preceding unsigned comment added by Agent452 (talk • contribs) 01:54, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Weird. I just did a search for him on WikiQuote and it yielded nothing =/ Thank you for pointing this out. I stand corrected and I will fix this. You are, however, are invited to be bold and fix errors like this yourself when you see them. I mean ..you have a user account and everything! :) --Naha|^(talk) 02:05, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, I would have done it but I was unsure of how to do it myself. I can link to articles in wikipedia but not wikiquote —Preceding unsigned comment added by Agent452 (talk • contribs) 02:08, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] roh

I Went To A ROH House Show And Saw Him Win The ROH World Championship Added It To The Article And He Changed His Legal Name To David Dallas Page Added That To

Really? Where and what date did this alleged show take place? Nenog (talk) 00:29, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

December 23th And It Was In LA