Talk:Diamond Approach

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[edit] Superego Defense

In the methodology section we currently have "Presence" and "Inquiry" - I am wondering if it would be worth adding "Superego defense" as a third major method. Seems to me that it is a pretty important basic method and does not fall into the other two categories. I thought I would see if anyone has anything to say before adding it. --Chinawhitecotton 19:19, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

In my experience as a student in the Ridhwan School (12 years), superego defense does not belong at the same level as Presence and Inquiry. I don't know where Hameed Ali puts it in his writings, but I see it as a means of overcoming a major obstacle to inquiry, as opposed to a method in itself. If this is right, it would be more appropriate to add something under the description of inquiry. I would explain there that considerable emphasis is placed on taking one's experience as one finds it and investigating it with curiosity and--when appropriate--compassion. According to the Diamond Approach, this requires one to be particularly sensitive to the attempts (sometimes subtle, sometimes gross) of the superego to manipulate our experience into that which it considers acceptable. Also, I wouldn't go into methods of working with the superego--I just attended a weekend in Berkeley where a senior teacher stated that the aggressive method of superego defense taught to students in the early years is not always appropriate later. I think that this surprised some people, but not others, who had reached the same conclusion on our own, without protest from teachers who have watched us work with the superego in other ways. Justmetwo (talk) 05:30, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Diamond Logos

Hm, no one responded about the Superego...guess I should add something.

Anyway, I decided to remove the link to the Diamond Logos site. I am not doing this to avoid reference to it, but because it seems confusing. My understanding is that Diamond Logos, founded by Faisal, is a different approach (as it suggests in the beginning of this article), so linking to it without an explanation that it is not the same as the Diamond Approach is not correct. Possible solutions:

  • Start a new Diamond Logos page, and have a "related" link, because clearly they are related
  • Add a paragraph in the D.A. article about what Diamnod Logos is and how it is different, then include the link.

Here is the link I cut out, for future reference: the DiamondLogos Teachings --Chinawhitecotton 22:07, 8 April 2007 (UTC)