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[edit] Copies sold

The "fifteen million copies" figure is not stated in the pdf reference provided, which instead refers to the Diablo franchise as a whole selling 17 million units, presumably including the first game and expansion packs. Unless a citation is provided for that figure, it will be edited. Shawnc 16:43, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Anyone else find it strange that the "List of best-selling video games" article shows Diablo 2 clocking in at 4 million, while Diablo shows 2.5 million? Where does this 17 million number come from at the top of this article? Shaflugi 00:38, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

The source for the "List of best selling..." is from 2001; that was 6 years ago that Diablo 2 had sold 4 million, with another million for LOD. The source from this article is from 2006, so even that's out of date. Parsecboy 14:48, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Voice acting

I've seen this at least one other time, an edit to change the voice actor for the Necromancer from Michael McConnohie to Michael Bell. The voice actor was McConnohie, anyone who owns the game with the full manual can easily verify that in the credits at the end of the manual as I did. I reverted the change and altered Michael Bell's wiki entry. Hopefully that clears up any confusion.--Fogeltje 13:41, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Diablo II: Diablerie

I went ahead and added a small section on this just under Reception. I felt it was worth mentioning, since it's a full adaptation of the game's themes and characters. If possible, I would like to expand on it slightly. 68.209.235.149 (talk) 00:51, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Also, could we have the search string "diablo ii diablerie" redirect to the Diablo II page? I doubt the book itself would warrant an article of its own. 68.209.235.149 (talk) 00:54, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup

This article so needs to be cropped. Probably to about half its current size. Ong elvin (talk) 12:19, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

I don't know that the article needs to be cut down any. It's only 27kb, which is well within the article size guidelines. What specifically do you think needs to be cut down? Parsecboy (talk) 14:06, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
The stuff that reads like a player's introductory guide to Diablo 2. I think maybe half was an overestimate; probably closer to a third. I'm thinking at least half of the class description if not the entire section altogether; similar articles only devote a single sentence per class to describe it generally. Also, kill the second-last paragraph of Multiplayer, the boss descriptions, and the entire Easter Eggs section. The last paragraph of Multiplayer could be moved to a new Development section; Development sections are pretty much a must-have as part of establishing real-world context. Amongst those, Easter Eggs obviously needs to go. Ong elvin (talk) 15:48, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
I mostly agree. Multiplayer should keep all its subjects, but there's too much in-game information about each by far. I don't find Characters to be excessive as a whole, but "The 7 Great Evils" is outright unneeded, as it has its own article that doesn't even seem to be cleanly linked (perhaps the character descriptions would best be suited to a similar page?). Easter Eggs is both bloated and unnecessary, but the cow level is prevalent enough to deserve brief mention somewhere. OG17 (talk) 18:43, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Objective Missing on Multiplayer

I think that the multiplayer section should include how objectives work online. Example, if Player 1 clears out Den of Evil and finishes the quest, and player 2 comes in who still has to do the Den of Evil quest, they cannot complete that quest unless joining a server that hasn't finished it or creates their own. But they can still follow player 1 and assist them in act 1 until they join act 2, which they cannot follow player 1 since their story has them in act 1. Signed Ledgo —Preceding comment was added at 16:34, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Articles provide general information, not detailed instructions. It's not meant to be a surrogate manual. OG17 (talk) 22:22, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Besides, in the scenario you give they can follow the other player to act 2. Den of Evil is not an essential quest. Dansiman (talk|Contribs) 06:01, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Yes, please, do not add more info into it, it must be informative; this means simple, precise and accurate. But above all, optimal.200.90.215.215 (talk) 04:10, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Link to http://www.diabloii.net/

I think there should be a link to http://www.diabloii.net/. This website is useful and contains a huge amount of useful information not found on the other two external links. Just because it's a "fansite" does not make it bad.

Pi is 3.14159 | Talk 02:44, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

I went ahead and added the link. While it's true that most fansites aren't worth linking, this one is professionally done (aside from not updating the Fact of the Day for over a year), and continues to reference current media coverage of the game, Blizzard's other franchises, etc. Dansiman (talk|Contribs) 05:59, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Release dates

Why has the good old :

(PC)
Flag of the United States / Flag of South Korea /Flag of Canada / Flag of Europe June 29, 2000
Flag of Poland July 5, 2000
(Mac)
June 29, 2000 been removed??

It's so much better than NA/PAL June 29, 2000, and it's also more accurate, as the Poland release date has been removed.

Mostly because, due to a site-wide discussion, the use of flags is generally depreciated. Nifboy (talk) 17:48, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sorceress Section

"The spell Teleport essentially defines the sorceress" - no it doesn't. Many people use the sorceress character and get along just fine without this spell. That statement is an opinion, not a fact, and does not belong in that section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.4.200.52 (talk) 04:44, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

It's not much of a stretch to say that only a tiny minority of theme characters actively avoid the skill. It's one of the most useful abilities in the game (never mind for one point), so much so that other classes often go out of their way for an Enigma or charges. A sorc without teleport is overwhelmingly the exception to the rule, so I don't see anything wrong with the article as written.OG17 (talk) 02:33, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] When Worlds Collide Tournament of 2004

Hey Guys,

We should add a section that described the events in 2004 where everyone ran the ladder and got the signed collectors edition for being first to level 99. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.62.206.106 (talk) 12:17, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The soundtrack?

Could someone say some things about it? The composer (Matt Uelman) travelled all over the world collaborating with different musicians for it. More info can be found in the liner notes which used to be up on the strategy site, but can be found on archive.org [1]. Also here [2] it mentions that the Diablo II expansion soundtrack drew inspiration from Wagners opera "Tristan and Isolde". {Phoenixdolphin (talk) 13:42, 24 May 2008 (UTC)}

[edit] Story and Characters

I updated the story section to include important characters and a cleaner looking story description. RedKlonoa (talk) 08:14, 26 May 2008 (UTC)