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[edit] Copyrighted pictures

The pictures Dac5.jpg and others showing a clear copyright tag from webbangladesh.com has been removed. Please do not add copyrighted pictures here. Thanks. --Ragib 03:59, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Jahangir was not even born in Year 1000.For that matter Mughal empire was not present at that time. I think the year is wrongly mentioned


I don't get your point. Read the article again. It states -
Dhaka's history dates back to the year 1000, but the city achieved glory as the capital of Mughal Bengal. At that time, it was also known as Jahangir Nagar in honor of the Mughal Emperor Jahangir.
Where do you see the assertion that Jahangir/Mughal empire was there at the year 1000? Nowhere!!!!! Thanks. --Ragib 16:35, 16 November 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Flag of Dhaka

Inclusion of this somewhere? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Dhaka_Flag.jpg VarunRajendran

This is the emblem of Dhaka City Corporation. This is NOT a flag of Dhaka city per se. The administrative units in Bangladesh do not have individual flags. Thanks. --Ragib 01:56, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Suggestion

Maybe you could include something about the city being one of the largest on Earth and its plans to become 3rd largest city by 2015. Also something about gaining megacity standard and plans for sky-train could be added. You could also add something about the shopping- including Bashundhara City and under-construction Jamuna City.

[edit] Suggestion

Hi! May I suggest to follow the guidelines laid out in Wikipedia:WikiProject Indian cities? I mean the sections. While Dhaka is not an Indian city, the guidelines suggested there in the project page is quite good to follow, as several city articles following that guideline have been improved to Featured Article standard. Of course Wikipedia:WikiProject Cities can be followed. But that is more better for USA cities. A mixture of two projects ate quite welcome. For example, "education" from Wikipedia:WikiProject Cities can be retained. However, Wikipedia:WikiProject Indian cities also gives some hints on the content of each section besides laying out the sections. Please decide.

Also, inline citations and references are lacking. If Ragib and others are ok with the proposal, I can move to at least start the sectioning. Content addition won't be possible for me totally though.--Dwaipayan (talk) 10:06, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks !!

Thanks to whoever has expanded this article! Man, had I been waiting to see the article on the city I love so much to be expanded. I think you can remove all those comments about 'expanded needed' for the article has already been expanded and the expansion has been pretty well done, especially the 2 pics of the skyline were awesome! Now the articles on rest of Bangladesh need to be expaned.

[edit] Origin of Dhaka

So far it seems that the origin of Dhaka is not clear. I have found that there is a clan name Dhaka (clan) in Rajasthan state of India. There are number of Dhaka villages also in Rajasthan. A further research may help to find the origin of Dhaka. burdak 03:43, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

I doubt whether there is any link between Dhaka and the Rajasthani clans. These are too historically further apart to be related. Ballal Sena was a Brahmin King, but he or the Sena Dynasty didn't originate from Rajasthan. Of course, proper research is definitely needed. Prof. Muntasir Mamun of Dhaka University has written a book on Dhaka's history ("Kinbodontir Dhaka"), I'll try to get that or other books. --Ragib 03:52, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
Thanks Rgib, for your comments and your promptness in correcting me on Promod K Singh's basis of writing on Dhakeshwari temple. My thinking is that during Buddhist period in India many sants had gone to many countries for spread of Buddhism. May be some Dhaka (clan) Buddhist start this temple. You will find that people from Afghanistan in ancient periods used to establish habitation in a new place with same old name. This is one possibility. Further research may lead to some new facts. burdak 15:50, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

On a related (slightly) topic, I see this sentence in the History section: "Dhaka and its surrounding area was identified as Bengalla around that period." As I recall from RC Majumdar's history of Bengal, Bangala (note the difference in spelling) was much larger than that, and not centered on Dhaka. PiCo 09:11, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Busted Links?

Why are there so many links to "Main Articles" that do not actually exist? SmartGuy 19:59, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

That's because links are created to make way for storing details about each sections. We expect the sections in this article to be summaries. It doesn't hurt to take a top-down approach ... i.e. add those links and later go on creating the pages. --Ragib 20:00, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Photos

A picture of Dhaka
A picture of Dhaka

Have uploaded 2 new photos. How do you add it to this article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dhakaiya (talk • contribs)

  • Use something like this: [[Image:DhakaCity.jpg|thumb|right|A picture of Dhaka]] . See WP:Images. Kappa 12:17, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
Image:Modern Dhaka.jpg
Dhaka has been modernised very fast in the 21st century.

Thanks! Also will be editing Bangladesh and economy of Bangladesh. We do not want to stay behind India or Pakistan. I believe my country is one of the best in South Asia. God bless all patriots. -Dhakaiya

Please be careful in making edits to Bangladesh, a featured article. If you want to make drastic changes, please discuss them in the talk page. Also keep in mind that the article is supposed to be in summary form, with details going to particular articles. For example, rather than adding content to the economy section, it makes sense to add them to the Economy of Bangladesh article, and summarizing that in the economy section. Thanks for the photos, and please feel free to contact me with any questions. --Ragib 17:09, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

This article is goog enough to be a featured article or at least a 'good article'. (Ahnaf 12:28, 14 September 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Map??

Why did someone add the bangladesh map in Dhaka page? why whole of bangladesh? why not a map of Dhaka. doesn't make sense. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.1.144.117 (talk • contribs)

It makes perfect sense as to show the location of the city in Bangladesh. --Ragib 22:26, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Yeah but it will look better without the other Bangladesh City names on it. for example see Mumbai and Kolkata page.

Suggestion accepted. A revised map has been added.-Arman Aziz 10:55, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] comment from 84.9.46.153

Please provide specific references for the assertaions made. I am asking for citations. As far as I'm aware Dhaka does not decide the culture, language and politics for the rest of Bangladesh. Sylhet and Habigonj, for example, are distinct. In addition, Sylhet region generally is an economic powerhouse due to expat earnings and natural gas/coal and many sylhetis (esp. those with relatives abroad) enjoy a higher per capita income than the emerging Dhakaiya middleclasses (£1=138.50 taka). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.9.46.153 (talk • contribs)

Please stop adding fake cn tags when there are references right next to each of the sentences. Thank you. --Ragib 01:50, 1 December 2006 (UTC)


There are no references next to the sentences that I can see. 'As the most populous city of the nation, life in Dhaka exemplifies Bangladeshi culture'.

No , it doesn't. Ppl in Dhaka speak Dhakaiya for a start! In Sylhet we have our own language, so this is not true. Bangladesh has varied and diverse cultures and Dhaka doesn't exemplify this.

Ragib, I'm glad that you have changed the economy section, which was making unfounded and grandiose statements about Dhaka's economy. Why didn't you notice this before? Are you from Dhaka? Yet you seem to immediately want to change posts on on the entries eg. Sylhet and Drishtifart, which I am interested in. I think it is time we had a Sylheti mod. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.74.40.40 (talk • contribs)

Please refrain from making comments on other editors. See No personal attack policy. Thank you. --Ragib 13:31, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm afraid that this article is biased, with many Dhakaiya posters making exaggerated claims. For instance, PLEASE POINT ME TO THE EXACT INTERNET SITE WHICH CLAIMS THAT DHAKAIYAS HAVE SIGNIFICANTLY GREATER INCOME THAN THE REST OF THE COUNTRY OR THAT DHAKA IS CENTRAL TO BANGLADESHI CULTURE OR POLITICS????

If you can't prove something then don't include it in this article.

As for attacks, you are a Dhakaiya, so I'm not attacking you. Just as you can call me a Sylheti, without my feeling put down. That isn't a personal attack.

You are forgetting Sylhet, Chittagong, Khulna etc are just regional cities while Dhaka is the political, economic and cultural capital of our beloved Bangladesh. (I personally came from a small district of eastern Bengal, but I feel it great to attach my emotions and belongingness to Dhaka. Because it is the best city of our country.)
As every British love London, every American New York, every Indian Delhi,similerly, every Bangladeshi should be attached highly to the glory of Dhaka. Or else your patriotism may be questioned.
Please remember 90% of Dhaka dwellers are not indegeneous Dhakaias, they are from Comilla, Rangpur, Chittagong, Barisal, Jessore or Sylhet( like you).Thats the beauty of any Metropolitan City and Dhaka is the only metropolice in BD. I presume you understand this.Al-minar 06:47, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
I don't think we should over-emphasise Dhaka's importance. It is a cultural centre, true, but it has its limitations. Also, Bangladeshi is not a culture. Bengali is linked to a culture and in that aspect, Kolkata also influences the culture significantly. So, one shouldn't say Dhaka portrays Bangladeshi culture, because the same statement holds true for every small village in Bengal. They all portray the culture in a collective fashion. It is, however, fair to say, "Dhaka offers a very good sample of the regional cultures due to its cosmopolitan population composition." Those are my two cents and please stop arguing on regional grounds. We cannot specifically have exactly 64 mods. We need to learn to think with our heads and not our hearts :). 64.194.250.99 22:19, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dhaka District?

Dhaka is a district. Why does the first line say Dhaka is the capital of Dhaka District. Dhaka is not a thana. It's a district. Dhaka district article should be removed and linked to this page. Anyone agrees?

64.194.250.99 22:12, 27 February 2007 (UTC)


In case you haven't noticed, "Dhaka" IS a city in the Dhaka District, in the Dhaka Division. There is separate articles for each of those entities. But *this* article is about the city. For other such examples, see Kolkata, London etc. Thanks. --Ragib 22:15, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Yes, but Dhaka District IS Dhaka City. There is no conception of a Greater Dhaka District like there is for Greater London. OK, just to be clear, what part of Dhaka District is NOT in Dhaka City? Are you referring to the non-metropolitan area? Also, even if you are referring to Dhaka Metropolitan area as Dhaka City, this is NOT the capital of Dhaka District like the first line implies. 64.194.250.99 22:22, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
I think you need to get your facts right and look into a map of the Dhaka District. A large part of the district is NOT under the city. For example, Dhamrai upazila, Dohar upazila, Keraniganj upazila, Nawabganj upazila and Savar upazila are in the Dhaka district, but not part of the Dhaka city. Those are not considered "thana"s like "Dhanmondi Thana". For the first sentence, it did look ambiguous, so I reworded it as "capital of Bangladesh and main city of the Dhaka District". Other than that, your other points do not apply as the district is much larger, and also has more areas that are not part of any city. Thanks. --Ragib 22:51, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for fixing the first sentence. OK, so you were referring to Dhaka Metropolitan Area or Dhaka Municipal Zone (under the City Corporation) as Dhaka City. I still think that it's ambiguous to create an impression that Dhaka District has a bunch of cities and Dhaka city is one of them, because similar scenario does not apply in general to all other districts. The upazilas never materialised into anything concrete. So, for now it seems the administrative divisions works like Division > District > Thana. Some district headquarters have evolved into metropolitan areas or city corporations, but I'm not sure how far this impacts administrative management. If we are making a distinction, shouldn't the same consistently be applied to Chittagong, Khulna and Rajshahi? 64.194.250.99 16:37, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
Organizationally, geographically, and officially,(i.e. for all conceivable purposes), the city and the district are completely separate entities. Yes, the impression you mentioned is correct. Dhaka district does have some cities (official municipal areas), of which Dhaka is one. The same does apply to all other districts ... i.e. we have separate articles for distinct entities (city vs. administrative district). Upazilas have materialized, though whenever a govt change happens, they get renamed. The Thana-outside-metropolitan-areas are actually upazilas (during Ershad and Hasina govts), and are only called Thanas (during BNP rule). Still, the administration of a city/municipal area is completely different from that of a district/thana/upazila (the latter has administrative officers, diff. administration/jurisdiction). Finally, we ARE being quite consistent here with all other cities/districts (see Chittagong, Rajshahi, Khulna). Thank you. --Ragib 21:06, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanas of Dhaka

The list of thanas on the article seem to be quite dated. I already have left a note to Usingha's talk page to that end (check it out) when he was trying to come up with a labelled map for Dhaka thanas. May this part needs a bit updating, citations and cleaning up. Cheers. Aditya Kabir 14:13, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Exaggerated economic power of Dhakaiyas

'Dhaka is the commercial heart of Bangladesh. The purchasing power of Dhaka's fast-growing middle class population is significantly higher than the rest of the country, increasing the market for modern consumer and luxury goods'.

The two BBC articles cited clear do not mention the Dhakaiya middle class in isolation but generally the middle class in Bangladesh. Both articles about Bashundara City and Fantasy Kingdom also contrast the real life of misery ie. a rickshaw driver on 3 dollars wage that is the real life of ppl in Dhaka. Can we please not have expat Dhakaiyas exaggerating Dhakas importance plz.

Please quote exactly where it mentions only the Dhakaiya middle class in these articles. You are talking generally about the class throughout Bangladesh. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.9.47.71 (talk • contribs)

[edit] Google map/Earth link to Dhaka

How about providing a link to Google map for Dhaka. When people will click it will take them to maps.google.com Also, a kml can also be provided to use with Google Earth.

imtiaz 16:48, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

No need, because the same purpose can easily be achieved by clicking the existing coordiantes link at the top right and then selecting the preferred viewing tool. This is why specifying the correct coordinate is so important!-Arman Aziz 10:50, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Neutrality of this article disputed

This article is being edited by a bunch of 17 year-old first generation expat Dhakaiyas whimsical about the 'old days'. They seek to overplay Dhaka's role within Bangladesh. There is no semblence of objectivity here. 'Dhaka is the commercial heart of Bangladesh. The purchasing power of Dhaka's fast-growing middle class population is significantly higher than the rest of the country, increasing the market for modern consumer and luxury goods'.

Please provide exact links to the above assertions as the two BBC articles are not Dhaka-specific but talk about the general growth of the Bangladeshi middle classes.

Star feature article this is not! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.74.41.133 (talk • contribs)

Please refrain from making derogatory comments against people from any particular regions. Thank you. --Ragib 19:43, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
Also, those issues are not neutrality concerns, rather you might ask for citations. Which I have provided for the first sentence, and will do for the second one. --Ragib 19:46, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
I've moved your {{cn}} tag to the second sentence in question. Reference for the first one have been provided. --Ragib 19:53, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
And now, I've reworded the 2nd sentence and added a reference. Thank you. --Ragib 20:00, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Citation required

'Most of Bangladesh's skilled workers are employed in the businesses and industries located in the Dhaka metropolitan area'.

Please provide a citation for this particular assertion. Also how do you define 'skilled' workers? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.9.46.7 (talk • contribs)

Skilled worker is a widely used term. Thanks. --Ragib 07:20, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Please provide a citation for the assertion that skilled workers are mostly to be found in metropolitan Dhaka. The article you rely on should specifically mention this.

[edit] Enamul Haque Jr

This cricketer hails from Sylhet and plays for Sylhet Division as per Crickinfo and Wiki article. He therefore cannot have hailed from Dhaka. Please don't make things up. It attacks the credibility of this article.


[edit] Mortazaq Mashrafe

The player is also Non-Dhakaiya as he hails from Jessore...the 'Narail express'.

[edit] Animation added

I have added one NASA generated animation showing the urban growth of Dhaka city from 1970s to 2000. I've added it in the demographics section. Can someone please help add some supporting text / data with it?-Arman Aziz 04:08, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

I reorganized the section a bit, and now believe the animation comes with an appropriate context. Additional text / data should not be required but may be added.-Arman Aziz 06:14, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Skyline Image and Flags

The skyline image recently added to this article does not look like a city skyline image at all. If we really need an image there Image:Dhaka-Bangladesh.jpg will do a much better job. Please give me your comments on this.

Also, I don't think the use of Dhaka City Corporation flag in the infobox is appropriate - as Ragib bhai explained earlier individual cities of Bangladesh DO NOT have any flag.. I'd like to remove the flag image as well.-Arman Aziz 09:04, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Well someone has changed the skyline image with a much better one (Image:Dhaka-skyline-aymash.jpg). This looks good now. I'm removing the City Corporation flag.-Arman Aziz 06:42, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Reference that can be added

U.N. agency says Bangladesh capital growing fast. This is from the latest UNFPA report. --Ragib 21:33, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Weather Table units

The weather/temperature table in the article has the units listed in Fahrenheit. However, almost all countries of the world (including Bangladesh) use Celsius ... I suggest changing the values to Celsius. Thanks. --Ragib 17:44, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dhaka

Why is there no information at all on the elevation of Dhaka in the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.205.184.161 (talk) 18:16, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Brilliant image of Dhaka

The new image looks faboulus dont u think, just look at the light effect in this pic, the best image yet I think. Moshin 16:20, 10 December 2007 (GMT)

Agree that the image is brilliant and eye-catching, but because of the light and lense effect it seems "edited" and artificial. Not sure whether it is very encyclopedic. Arman (Talk) 03:03, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
The image is good looking from artistic perspective.The artificiality innate in the picture definitely makes it inappropriate for encyclopedic purpose. Dhaka is a FA Class featured article in wikipedia, so before deleting the accepted picture one must think twice.So Mr. Mohsin, I am again adding the previous picture. To insist your subjecive opinion that the night picture is better, let us discuss it in lenghth in the talk page.( I would solicit opinion from Ragib/Aditya/Nahid and others) If majority of experienced Bangladeshi wikipedians agree to your opinion, I shall not oppose your inclusion. But before that let us maintain status quo . OK?Murad67 (talk) 12:48, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

I'd opt for the previous "non-edited" image ... the night photo may be eye-catching, but we cannot use an edited, special-effects photo. This being an encyclopedia, we'd rather stick to real depictions no matter how bland they are.

Given the vast expanse of Dhaka, and the emerging skyscrapers, it won't be difficult to get a good panorama of Dhaka skyline ... --Ragib (talk) 13:40, 11 December 2007 (UTC)


The current image of Dhaka, isn't really a good quality image, and I slightly agree now that the special-effects photo isnt really appropriate for Wikipedia pages but still stands out, it's a hard dicision to make... if any of you's live in Dhaka, do you think you can take a new good shot of the skyline of Dhaka? -- crop half of the sky of the pic & check if its better: (Image:Dhaka_city.jpg) -- A picture that is more eye-catching in the page will make the viewers read and view it more often, and change the way they see Bangladesh probably, I still think that the image is much better for the article, please respond. Moshin 16:08, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Hi mohsin, I am afraid that I'll also go for the existing non-edited version in line with Murad, Ragib, Arman and others. It is much better than the night skyline one. Untill we get a better un-edited picture, we must keep the current one. Thanks!Hossain Akhtar Chowdhury (talk) 17:46, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
The older image is not the best we can have, but at least it features a couple of familiar landmarks of Dhaka: the Bangladesh Bank building and the Janata Bank Bhaban. I would like to reiterate my preference for this image as the skyline until we get a better image. Arman (Talk) 01:38, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

The same effects are also noticed on the London picture, I cant see why a brilliant image cant fit for Dhaka, I mean the image is much better than the London page (?)

Firstly the London Tower bridge image does not have same "edited" lense effects; secondly it features London Bridge - one of the most prominent landmarks of London, while the Dhaka image features an unrecognizable ordinary residential area (which could easily be mistaken for any place in Chittagong or Calcutta); and thirdly London is not a featured article, but Dhaka is - so no reason for us to benchmark against London article. Arman (Talk) 01:47, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Too many images

The article started to get flooded with too many images, so I took out three: Westin, Sheraton and Standard Chartard bank. If there is no discussion about them in the article, I don't see the point of adding so many images. Hopefully when Template:Slideshow will be available for use, we'll be able to accomodate these images in the article. Arman (Talk) 08:52, 14 December 2007 (UTC)