Talk:Devin Townsend

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[edit] Promo piece

This article has the feel of a promo piece that has gone through a somewhat superifical wikization. Ex) original sentence "Devin Townsend is Jesus reincarnate." article sentence "Many people believe Devin Townsend to be Jesus reincarnate."

Agreed. I would make a edits myself, but I'm a fan so I think my bias could potentially show through. --Burbster 13:01, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
Well, if you have the time please make some edits... The page is already a bit biased, if you make edits and try to be neutral you could probably only improve it. And if you write stuff that is too biased, somebody will change it probably anyway. --Mighty Jay 10:31, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
But... but Devin Townsend is the prophet of a new day! D: ...Kidding. 216.68.209.189 07:53, 12 July 2006 (UTC)dethtoll

I think it's really hard to cite valid references, since music press is even more biased than wikipedia users. I don't see anything wrong in citing opinions widely accepted by Devin's fanbase... --201.223.62.171 01:47, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Opinions about Devin are not encyclopic factual knowledge... I guess that's why there are different words for opinions and facts. :) Waffle247 15:36, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] More professional

I think this page could be much better and more authoritative. I also think it could address some of the lore surround Devin (ie. the post-Infinity hospital stay, etc.) and be more informative regarding production techniques. Compared to other wiki-pages, this one sounds less professional. Let's try to take it in that direction.Gurp13|Talk 20:56, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Go ahead, don't be shy! This is what wikipedia is about! MikeCapone 17:01, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Right, then! I've added a few paragraphs. As you can see, I'm trying to give people a feel for what makes Devin Townsend such an amazing artist. I'm not a muscian so I am mostly speaking as an educated fan. Maybe some musicians can refine the language, better explain the processes and even comment on Devin's musical prowess and songwriting. I think some future additions could focus on describing the albums in detail, as objectively as possible, maybe commenting on themes or styles.Gurp13|Talk 23:25, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] DTB albums

Do we really need to keep adding/removing the Devin Townsend Band albums Accelerated Evolution and Synchestra here? The DTB has it's own page, and these 2 albums should remain there. The SYL albums aren't included, so I think these albums should stay in the realm of Dev's "other" band...and keep his individual projects here exclusively. ComaDivine 11:24, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

I agree that there should be some distinction between what Devin has done as a "solo" album and the stuff he did with the DTB. But I don't know if we should remove it from this page (and link to the DTB page), or perhaps the discography can be rearranged to either include SYL stuff, of have a better distinction between DTB stuff and Devin only stuff... I'm not really sure myself what the best option would be... The DTB did evolve from his solo stuff... but then again, the DTB is a rather permanent band, so I'm not really sure myself. --Mighty Jay 17:55, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

I think we should remove it as DTB has its own page, but doesn't have a true discogrophy, we should try to divorce the work by the Band from the work by the Man. Atechi 19:07, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Is this why DTB members are not mentioned here? I'm in for removing. Quibus 20:18, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The picture

Why was this removed?, i think its neccasery for someone of devins more unique aperamce to have a picture with there article, if anyone with any actual ability with wikis could replace it i would be thankful :) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Borderline26 (talkcontribs) 21:57, 8 January 2007 (UTC).

The image was removed because it did not contain a valid license. For more info on this check this (that's from the guy who deleted it). --Mighty Jay 09:58, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
I added a new image taken from Flickr. This was one of the only images I could find that is freely licensed, but I think it shows Devin in a typical way. --Mighty Jay 20:00, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
The image could not be used in commercial use, so it was deleted from the commons. Does anybody have a nice image that can be freely released? --Mighty Jay 13:29, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
I uploaded the standard marketing image of Devin - needs tidying up a bit still but I got no time to spare. Waffle247 14:34, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Famous Relatives

Is Mr. Townsend related in any way to Birutė Galdikas? I seem to have some recollection of a connection. Hamster Sandwich 16:19, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

If he does then it's news to me and I can't find anything about it on google but please do add it to the article if you can find good sources! Waffle247 14:52, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Judas Priest tribute

I moved it to the Strapping Young Lad page since they performed as a band and not Devin as a guest. Considering the duh, now actually removed it comment I made, it was to myself, since the first time I edited it I forgot to delete the section so no actual edit was made, hope no-one was offended.... Quibus 16:56, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merge Devin Townsend and The Devin Townsend Band

They are essentially the same project with slightly different names, and it doesn't seem likely that Townsend will ever reform. All info regarding Devin and DTB should be kept in the same page-- this doesn't include SYL. I will be re-writing and citing this article, and if agreed upon, I'll also be re-working the DTB info into the article as well. Vanishdoom 00:07, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

I personally thing the DTB article should focus on actual releases while this article should focus on the person himself. (Always hated how articles based on people in bands would either focus on one or the other too much.) 71.60.159.181 (talk) 00:11, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
DTB only released two albums and was merely an alias for Townsend, like Ocean Machine. It's extremely confusing to have two articles about the same thing, and it makes it fairly hard to maintain. —Vanishdoom (talk) 02:42, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:SYL CITY PROMO.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 20:20, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Synesthesia?

From Wikipedia's article on Christeen plus 4 Demos:

What is music? What is its purpose? Why am I blessed and damned with the ability to hear colour and see sound? I do so because that is how I was born. It's that simple, and I make no claims to greatness, the only thing I claim to love is my own work. I have been given a gift...the gift of a glimpse of creation, and the ability to show it to my audience. A chance to say...HERE IT IS!!! ISN'T IT BEAUTIFUL? And it's so simple. Art begins and ends with the artist and his audience, and the stage of my life that included the INFINITY recordings ends with this EP. These demos were the scattered remains of the record, and I meant for them to be much more complete than how they ended up on this disc, but I am exhausted and have no money to finish them the way they should be heard. I hope you enjoy them none the less, and I'll see you very soon in a new stage of life that offers all new music... Peace, love, and music... Devin and crew.

Does this mean Devin Townsend has synesthesia or is he speaking metaphorically? 84.67.140.46 (talk) 17:08, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Removed progressive rock label and changed simply jazz label to free jazz

I've removed progressive rock, because article already states prgoressive metal as a main genre and prog metal is altought pretty much ifluenced by prog rock in the beginning. I also added 'free jazz'-tag, because that would be more clarificating information than leaving it simply as a "jazz" as Devin draws on much more free jazz influences than jazz itself. Wintersword 22:14, 2 February 2008 (UTC)