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[edit] GA nomination on hold

Please leave me a note when you've dealt with the issues listed below. Cheers, Dihydrogen Monoxide ♫ 23:03, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

  • The website (URL) section of the infobox shouldn't read "devildriver.com", but should instead read as the full URL (http://www.devildriver.com/). Precedent: Powderfinger (in fact, that's my precedent for everything :P)
  • Image caption could do with a wlink for Ozzfest, and a specific date. Nice image btw. :D
The image doesn't have a specific date, so i can't add it
  • "Coal Chamber vocalist Dez Fafara was not happy with the direction Coal Chamber was going in musically." - This sentence makes very little sense in the context of what's been said so far. Merging it with the next sentence will clarify things a bit.
  • "The band's self-titled album was not well received by music critics." - might wanna wlink to the album somewhere in this sentence
  • "Fafara hosted many barbecues..." - Don't use "many", perhaps "numerous" or "several"
  • "and gave him his number for a jam session" - Phone number, right? Clarify...
  • "Fafara thought it was cool because it sounded 'evil'" --> "Fafara thought it appropriate because it sounded 'evil'"?
  • Wlink or something for the Cross of Confusion?
  • Are there any other reviews for the first album (other than All Music Guide's)?
  • "Produced at Sonic Ranch Studios, a 1400 acre pecan ranch, 200 miles away from El Paso, Texas." - Start this sentence with "The album was" or something like that, otherwise it's meaningless.
  • If you're going to give a precise sales figure (eg. 10,402), you have to say when it was taken, as there's a 99% chance it's no longer relevant.
Added the sales were taken in the first week
  • "and that the band made their "true debut the second time around"." - you'll need a verb here, how about "and said that the band made their "true debut the second time around"."?
  • Ref 16 needs an accessdate and other formatting
  • "The band played for the first time as headliners in the Burning Daylight Tour." - Headliners --> Headline act (etc.)
  • "DevilDriver released their third studio effort titled The Last Kind Words, which was released on 16 June and 19 June 2007, in Australia and the United Kingdom respectively, and 31 July in the United States." -Suggesting reword too..."DevilDriver released their third studio album The Last Kind Words on 16 June 2007 in Australia, and 19 June 2007 in the United Kingdom. It was released in the United States on 31 July 2007.
  • "and number 48 on the Billboard 200," --> "and reached number 48 on the Billboard 200" - also add a wlink for the Billboard 200.
  • Ref 23 probably isn't relevant any longer - see if you can find a relevant version on the web archive (or ask me if you don't know why...)
  • "DevilDriver's songs "Devil's Son" and "Driving Down the Darkness" were featured in the TV show Scrubs." - When? Why? Any more details?
  • Are there any influences noted for Spreitzer or Kendrick?
I looked but found nothing, the vocalist does almost all the interviews
  • Billboard 200 is wlinked to twice in the discography section.
Other, non GA related comments
  • Someone please create the John Boecklin article!
  • It seems an Evan Pitts article exists, yet he's not wlinked to in {{DevilDriver}} or in the "band members" section. Investigate?
It's a redirect to DevilDriver, only content the article had was Pitts is the guitarist for DD
  • The band's singles are considered notable, so articles can be created for them.
  • If another album is released (or, indeed, now), a DevilDriver discography list would be appropriate. The discography section can then be formatted the way Powderfinger#Discography, The Corrs#Discography, etc. are.
Will do after an album and DVD is released.

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Good luck, Dihydrogen Monoxide ♫ 23:03, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

I have made all the appropriate fixes, thanks for the review. M3tal H3ad (talk) 02:44, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
And it passes. Might wanna create articles for the singles one of these days... Dihydrogen Monoxide ♫ 06:34, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WTF @ genres

Devildriver may have groove metal elements but I would never call them death metal or melodeath. Devildriver is pretty much metalcore with some nu metal elements mixed in. I don't have a problem with the groove metal label, though I think it's a stretch mostly. However Devildriver is metalcore. And they're definitely not death or melodic death metal. Blizzard Beast $ODIN$ 23:57, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Further more, you cannot use metal-archives as a source, which has already been determined. And if you do choose to use it as a source did you people conveniently forget to notice that the page says nu metal as well?? So if you're gonna use that citation then put in nu metal. Blizzard Beast $ODIN$ 00:02, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
nu metal elements? LOL dunno where you got that idea from. devildriver ftw! \m/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.161.132.1 (talk) 23:55, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
Nu Metal? So you're saying DevilDriver sounds like Korn, Disturbed, and System of a Down? I'm sorry but I fail to see any similar elements other than they all have a guitarist. I don't know if I could call DevilDriver MeloDeath however. They're also much much too technical to be Metalcore --Deathwish238 (talk) 17:49, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Technicality has nothing to do with them being metalcore. And I never said they were nu metal, only that metal archives calls their early stuff nu metal or "mallcore" actually. Blizzard Beast $ODIN$ 21:55, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry, what kind of metal are you listening to that makes you think that they are metalcore? I don't hear any breakdowns, I don't hear any melodic guitar parts, I don't hear any "clean" singing whatsoever, so how in the world are they metalcore? I do however hear pretty harsh vocals, groovish/ heavy guitar riffs, and bluesy solos which are all groove metal traits and i think they should be labeled strictly as groove metal if you want to label them at all. Their old stuff wasn't even close to nu-metal either, Dez was in a nu-metal band before Devildriver but the whole reason why he started Devildriver was to get away from nu-metal so i really doubt that he wanted his new band to be nu-metal. They aren't metalcore either and to be honest I'm sick of everyone labeling any modern metal band that has the slightest bit of hardcore influence as "metalcore" because it's getting to the point where just about everyone is labeled (and most of the time falsely labeled) as metalcore because everyone is so hardcore-obsessed these days. --Snook666 (talk) 21:57, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
It can't be helped. We must do as the sources say. Blizzard Beast $ODIN$ 18:27, 12 May 2008 (UTC)